you know, needless to say we can't say enough about mary francis barry and other panelist as well. but this is a very powerful panel and i've been to all of your series, and it needs to go on the road. but i would also say with the -- national congress -- [laughter] not just from the perspective of politics and pros, and i was a member of national congress of black women black activist women and with my mentor steve dolores tucker how we miss her but we live in a celebrity culture there's no celebrity in the panel signature here, and it seems to me it was about video with music with other people that you would bring along, and with the harry who has been here by the way, you know, with -- >> i adore him. but you have to -- reeducate the young people. this is who they are. this is who was in the struggle. i can still visualize and other people being trained in the movement and how to deal with knots upside your heads and protect women an training them how to hold their bodies so that they cannot be injured. in the midst area, there was a time when a panel like this, there would have

barry., mary francis avis, author of how exceptional black women lead. wesley, author of "can't kill us all." and julie of "are we better off." david mccullough speaks with former news anchor charles gibson about his collection of speeches on american principles. >> and i began to think about the great presidents down the years who have been avid readers of history. many of them wrote history, including john kennedy. and even those who didn't have the benefit of a college education like harry truman, read history all their lives. and realize that it's essential to the role of a leader. whether it's the presidency or leadership of any kind. it's about cause and effect. history matters. >> go to booktv.org for the complete weekend schedule. >> "washington journal" continues. host: and we are now joined by philip wegmann, he's the commentary writer of "the washington examiner." and he're