. >> mary francis berry, i want to talk about the america maya angelomayaangelou witnessed in .ere is a quote in the times. i thought it was important for us to talk about. our country is better now than it may seem to be. you can look around and see black people in positions of leadership, and they've been voted in by large white majorities, men and women who had some of the large corners and men and women who had some of the largely white universities. as son who has fought this battle for civil rights for decades, your reflections on her reflection of the changes in the country. >> well, i think is right in that anybody who has been around all this time, even if you have read the history of these times is amazed at how things have changed. to think about things you used to not be able to do like going in to certain places or jobs that people who had college degrees couldn't get. you would be amazed. but when you read about all the stuff, all the problems that still exist, and listen to them on the media and so on, you're taken aback. but there is no way that you cannot be ove