sister mary hughes, thank you for joining us. you are about with an episcopal priest. but going forward, what is your prayer and wish for the life of women in the church? >> i think women in general in terms of the church and all areas of life are looking for places where they can use the gifts that god gave them. i think going forward, we would hope that like in the early church when they often said who is it who has the gifts and will they put them at the service of the church, that there might be greater opportunities not only for women but for all laypersons to work together with our elected and appointed church leaders for the sake of the kingdom of god. >> sister, the question, i'll give you a chance to think about it because i want to direct this to what's going on, on camera, but do you believe their position should be elevated? should they be priests? how do you think they should serve as clergy? we're watching the papal seal of pope benedict xvi. it is being removed. it is a practical and a ceremonial, symbolic significance. this is the removal of him as pope

right now i'm going by professor of law, and sister mary hughes. and national correspondent for the american conservative magazine and the author from "grace on the margins." people around the world shocked on monday by the sudden announcement that pope benedict xvi would step down at the end of the month. only a handful of popes have renounced their office. pope benedict xvi is the first to resign in 600 years. when benedict became the pope in 2005 he was 78 years old. now at 85 age seems to be the reason for his resignation. speaking in latin on monday the pope said quote after having repeatedly examined my conscience before god i have dome the certainty that my strengths due to an advanced age are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the petrine. benedict's successor faces several challenges both in the u.s. and around the world. seminary enrollment in the u.s. has fallen at a staggering rate also in europe. church attendance is down. the church's center of gravity has moved to africa and the church works through the legacy of widespread

hughes family. let's go get 'em. give me jerry. give me mary. [cheering and applause] guys, here we go. do you pack in your suitcase for a trip to a nudist camp? jerry. >> nothing. steve: nothing. mary? >> a smile? steve: a smile. get that in a suitcase. pass or play? >> we're gonna play, steve. steve: they're gonna play. jimmy, my man, how you feeling? >> nice to meet you. steve: what do you do, partner? >> i work in health care i.t. steve: ok, good. tech guy. >> yes. steve: that's a little bit too heavy for me. i have no tech jokes because i know nothing about it. hey, jim, let's go. what do you pack in yo