. ♪ >>> for decades his name sin none news with mary j. blige and sean combs.'s looking for the next big star. ♪ >> welcome to harrell records. >> i recently caught up with him at the studio. >> thanks for spending time with us, brother. >> my measure. >> you can't talk about modern music without talking about you. many of the big names, you're connected to. how did that happen? >> i guess some of it was timing, some was luck. i think it was i was a rap star, i was in dr. jeckyll and mr. hyde. i used to work for r russell simmons, i wanted to do r & b, i bridged the culture with new jack swing. ♪ >> when you started off the group, you had hits yourself, three big hits. what made you leave being an artist --. >> what made me leave i was a manager as well as being an artist, l.l. cool j., when he got out there, he had screaming girl fans like new edition, i was already singing about rolexs and bentleys, if i have to break it down and sing about boom boxes it's time to me to step to the back and put the young guys forward. >> by 1986 you started uptown. >> heavy d