and mary-jane deeb, chief of the african and middle east division at the library of congress. the views she expresses here are her own. welcome to both of you. mary jane deeb, what do you make of gadhafi's speech today. it was defiant but there were all kinds of strange parts of it as well, right? >> he was defiant. that was to be expected. but also it was a very typical gadhafi speech in many ways. first of all the theatrics. the setting is the 1986 bombed- out house in which he lives. the second thing that he calls upon his supporters to attack others. again that's the way he's ruled. divide and rule has been his motto. thirdly he speaks about his own revolutionary past. he seems to forget that 40 years have passed since he had the revolution in libya and over threw the king. >> brown: divide and rule. fill us in a little bit on that. this often bizarre personality but he has held a grip there for decades. >> absolutely. he took power through revolutionary force using the military. he toppled the king and has maintained power ever since. he's ensured that the military has not

two weeks: samer shehata, assistant professor of arab politics, at georgetown university and mary jane deeb chief of the african and middle east division at the library of congress. the views she expresses here are her own. samer shehata, this was not the speech that most people were expecting, what did you hear? what jumped out at you? >> well, there wasn't that much to the speech. this is the third time hosni mubarak has spoken. this is the third time the egyptians have expected him to resign or leave and the third time egyptians have been disappointed, in fact, shocked, outraged as margaret mention. ed so the details weren't important. he talked about this supposed quote/unquote dialogue with a group of opposition, quite broad and so on, he talked about youth and constitutional amendments, specific constitutional amendments having to do with restrictions on presidential candidacy and judicial supervision of elections but really none of that mattered because that's not what this is about. i mean, for several weeks now millions of egyptians have been calling for the president to resign and