mary jo and jimmy are divorced, but maintain a friendship.e here to get questions answered about the recent escape attempt. >> he thought it was an opportunity for a -- probably cost him the rest of his life. >> who are you here to see? >> james maxwell. >> visitation to j-2, i need james maxwell for a visit, please. james maxwell. all right. go ahead. j-2. >> i'm thinking it's so stupid. i just can't understand his thought process. he's a grown man. i guess he knows what he's doing. or he thinks he does. anyway. >> he's a knucklehead. always has been. >> while mary jo visits brandon, echo goes to see her father. these visitations have been the routine since she was a little girl. >> i'm kind of used to it, just him not being there, having to see him behind glass, having to go through security to be able to see him. my dad's been in here a long time. i hate it for him. you don't to want see anybody that you love locked up . but he wouldn't know how to act if he was out here anyway. my brother being locked up now bothers me a little more. just

. >> but mary jo white. >> maya first. >> mary jo white had been a u.s.ttorney and already demonstrated she would go after wall street so she had a track record on this before she got the position. >> she was a lawyer in private practice before she was u.s. attorney. if you follow this logic to its conclusion, no one could be appointed to any position over that nature if you happen to be at a wall street bank or representing wall street banks. who are you going to find who populate these offices? who has the level of confidence in the marketplace and do an effective job? if you start with the proposition if you work for or represent a particular constituency you cannot regulate them, i think you're going to be doing your self a disservice. if you look at history it's turned out the other way in terms of confidence and rigorous oversight. >> david, how about if we amend that to say, yeah, sure, but you have to demonstrate some interest and credibility and experience in regulating and being able to show, because undoubtedly you'll be going back in the priva

♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ >>> mary jo's dead? >> what is it?ve over a bridge. >> no, she didn't have a car up there. >> that's all the information i have right now. i'm terribly sorry. >> jimmy: that is matthew perry in "the kennedys: after camelot." you play ted kennedy. mary jo's parents. >> that's right. >> jimmy: you cat the word "car," you nailed the word "car" which is the most important word when you're doing an accent like that. >> yes. when i got the role i was doing the play in london. and the accent is obviously very important when you're doing this. ted kennedy had a very specific accent. it wasn't just a boston accent, it was an upper-cr so they hired a dialect coach for me and i worked 12 to 15 times on the accent. >> jimmy: while doing the play? >> yeah. it was really important to get it down. and i paid for this dialect coach. he taught me the wrong accent. >> jimmy: oh, wow. >> yeah. >> jimmy: how did you find out? >> i didn't know that, so he taught me the wrong accent, and here's the accent that he taught me. and i questioned

from mary jo white's tenure. it was about a three-year period of time. there were 1400 defendants over 400 cases. and the conclusion of that analysis was that over that three-year period of time, the commission was unanimous in virtually all of them. there were only four of those 414 cases in which there was a single negative vote from one commissioner. and so i just wanted to make it clear -- i didn't want to let your allegation that republican nominees are lenient, stand without at least a response. i know you would like to make a response as well and you're welcome to do so. >> that's right. and i haven't prepared for this, but i do want to say i think we have a "new york times" analysis showing in the 48 cases where mary jo white recused herself, that the republicans wanted less enforcement. >> i'm not familiar with that article, but you are welcome to -- >> and the democrats wanted more enforcement. so, but we can continue to talk about this issue. >> we will do so. mr. clayton, thank you again for your willingness to serve and your participating in

chair mary jo white. like you she came from a major wall street law firm and in her short time heading up the s.e.c. she had to recuse herself in at least 48 enforcement matters because of conflicts involving her former clients, her former law firm, and her husband's clients and law firm. at least 48 cases in which she couldn't vote to punish a big company because the other commissioners were often split on enforcement matters, chair white's recusals led the commission to deadlock time and time again. which meant the corporations that may have broken the law were able to get off easier. your recusal problems seem to be even more severe than chair white's. with you as s.e.c. chair, it looks like wall street can breathe a little easier knowing that you won't be voting against them. and there's likely to be weaker enforcement. so here's my question. can you explain why, out of all the people who could have been selected to head the s.e.c., you are the right person for this job? >> thank you. and i want to --

sheelah: the outgoing chairman is mary jo white -- brian: who used to be the u.s.ttorney in the southern district of new york. sheelah: i have to say a lot of the activity that's, you know, i cover in this book, the swirling, rampant, insider trading, a lot of it to place in -- took place in the years leading up to the financial crisis, when the sec was managed for at least some of the time by people who did not really believe in regulation, you know, and there was a sense the market could regulate itself. a deregulatory time, a lot of this during the george bush era. at the end of it, we ended up with a huge mortgage fraud crisis and insider-trading crisis. brian: the commissioners are appointed by the congress had approved by the senate. down the street is the fbi. sheelah: yes, so they are independent, and very different. the sec, there are all different divisions. there is the enforcement division and they are there to enforce security laws, and they are often doing the very painstaking, difficult work of looking at suspicious trades, so if something happens in

recusal's were a very big issue for the out going sec chair, mary jo white. like you, she came from a major wall street firm and according to the new york times, in her short time heading up the sec, she had to recuse herself in at least 48 oforcement matters because conflicts involving her former clients, her former law firm, and her husband's clients and law firm. at least 48 cases in which she could not vote to punish a big othery because the commissioners were often split on enforcement matters. her refusals led the commission to deadlock time and time again. that meant that corporations that may have broken the law were able to get off easier. your recusal problem seemed to be even more severe. with you as sec chair, it looks like wall street can breathe a little bit easier knowing you will not be voting against them. to be weakerly enforcement. here's my question -- can you explain why out of all the people who could have been selected to head the sec, you are the right person for this job? >> thank you. i want to say that the question of whether i am r

and so he just like other people in the past, mary jo white and other former chairman, arthur leavittknow, had to recuse myself from various things that i had participated in while in the private sector. so that's normal and to be expected. if you're going to have somebody who knows about the marketplace, who knows how things work and then is able to, you know, help guide a government agency like this, that's inevitable. but i think he's taking the appropriate steps with the office of government ethics there to tell them what the rules are. so i think this is normal. and it's a sign of the way our system works. >> yep. big job. obviously the markets care a lot about it. it's good to get your insight, paul. we appreciate it as always. thanks. >> thank you very much. >> paul atkins. as we head to break, look at shares of accenture. stock's down almost 4%. the biggest percentage decliner on the s&p. seeing some strength in financials, dow's up 28. we're back in a minute. yes? please repeat the objective. ♪ thrivent mutual funds. managed by humans, not robots. before investing, carefully

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