who became the security and exchange -- mary jo white. of characters in my book have cameos and then reemerged in the trump years. he says i'm going to give you a speech, but before i do, how many of you guys have never lost a case? a bunch of hands shoot up. these are the best of the best of the best. they have gone to the best law schools, think of themselves as the best trial lawyers in the country. they are very proud of their records. he says me and my buddies have -- have a name for you guys. you are the chicken bleep club. william: what did he mean by that? jesse: you can't be just about winning. your ambition is to do justice. you have to take on the most powerful people you can, and that is how you do justice in america. william: and so, did these people take this message to heart? did they change their behavior as a result? this is a book about fail you to prosecute. -- failure to secure. they don't unfortunately the department of justice writ club.comes the chicken-s now i argue that the department of justice has lost the abili

mary jo and jimmy are divorced, but maintain a friendship.s answered about the recent escape attempt. >> he thought it was an opportunity for a -- probably cost him the rest of his life. >> who are you here to see? >> james maxwell. >> visitation to j-2, i need james maxwell for a visit, please. james maxwell. all right. go ahead. j-2. >> i'm thinking it's so stupid. i just can't understand his thought process. he's a grown man. i guess he knows what he's doing. or he thinks he does. anyway. >> he's a knucklehead. always has been. >> while mary jo visits brandon, echo goes to see her father. these visitations have been the routine since she was a little girl. >> i'm kind of used to it, just him not being there, having to see him behind glass, having to go through security to be able to see him. my dad's been in here a long time. i hate it for him. you don't to want see anybody that you love locked up . but he wouldn't know how to act if he was out here anyway. my brother being locked up now bothers me a little more. just because he's my littl

that's not the lesson amazingly enough that mary jo white, lanny brewer and eric holder learns. >> cohan: lanny brewer being eric holder's righthand man. >> yes, the head of the criminal division in the justice department under obama and eric holder under covington and burlington, both leave a big firm to go under obvious and return to covington and burlington. >> cohan: and lanny caught on tape in the documentary where he's espousing the holder doctrine, if you will. >> exactly. so they internalized a different message from anderson. they internalized that this is a terrible thing, that we can't put people out of work, it's too disruptive, and when the financial crisis happens, they're very trepidacious about prosecuting a bank because the markets are so fragile. my argument, if you are worried about systemic consequences of prosecutor companies, focus on individuals. instead, they don't. i think it is a skill set issue. they don't put the resources or time in. they say they have every incentive to do it but they don't have the incentives to do it and that has to do with the revolving d

kennedy leaves, peels off with mary jo kopechne, drives the car to the water, the car goes underwater on the edge of the water for a period of time. self-admitted leases there and decides not to go help her but instead go back to the party, have a cocktail. most people know about that part. then he does something amazing, goes back to his hotel room, has a drink, complains about the loud noise in his hotel. the next morning, when the coroner got the body out of the water, the coroner said she was alive in the car for a period of time and could have been saved. >> j.d.: i think about that and i think about his televised address. he gave a speech. "i sat there, my lungs filling with water." he gave a dramatic reenactment. it is horrible, sorted. of greater concern to me is what ted kennedy did in 1984, sitting down with the soviets saying we have to get rid of this reagan guy. that to me, in terms of public morality, is a far more egregious sin. the human dimension of what happened at chappaquiddick something that cost kennedy the presidency. >> eric: the reason i started the book with

i like -- i got to talk to mary jo buttafuoco, and -- you remember her? pictures that i have of you. >> great. >> jimmy: and just -- >> i'm scared. >> jimmy: this is your bar mitzvah. >> so bad. you know what, nothing says awkward teenage years more than these transition lenses, reading the torah. what is not awkward about that photo? >> jimmy: why the transition lenses? >> thank you to evelyn cohen who forced me into those. and they hadn't crafted them correctly. it is not sunny in the synagogue. >> jimmy: clearly it was a a little bright-- it was a a little bright. >> yeah, i guess so. >> jimmy: 'cause if it was dark it would just be clear. >> jimmy: yeah. all right. how about this one here? this one i just -- >> oh, my god, this is so bad. i'm -- okay. i'm sitting on jim morrison's grave. i'm 20-years-old. i am attempting to smoke. i'm wearing essentially hammer pants, which i wore because i do remember that my butt used to look very good in this particular pair of very baggy pants. and a polo shirt. you can almost see jim morrison jumping out of the g

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and as a second question, at the tail end of mary jo white's tenure she talked about some of the rules she felt could have been finished but there was not a quorum. she mentioned some of the title 7 rules. what's the fate of title 7 at this point? is the commission ever going to adopt some of those rules that were apparently ready at the end of her time? >> there is -- yeah, so title 7, for those of you who aren't familiar with it, it part of dodd/frank, deals with over-the-counter derivatives. the jurisdiction is split between the ftc and cftc. they're revisiting some of the rules, looking at the implementation burdens. i believe the acting chairman has announced they'll start revisiting some of those. the s.e.c., we have not gone as far on a number of rules since we have the opportunity to move forward on some of those. at the same time, we need to make sure that we work with the cftc to make sure that our rules are harmonized within the -- they have jurisdiction over swaps. we have security based swap. a number of participants, whether on the dealer or customer said, aide are in bot

today the activists are planning a secret rather precarious operation that i will be channel well mary jo i need to be. pretty not be subtle. but. if through going a little thank god i think all three made me feel enough to fill me to not be so knocked up get out and be a green i looked it up when you wanted to quit but now be. they need to be so disobedient to be cheap you know it might be demonstrators intend to book the canal and prevent three cruise ships leaving. it's not only in venice that cruise tourism is seriously damaging the environment german is nature conservation union has criticised the lack of exhaust purification on the ships of. the fuel by heavy oil which emits a hundred times the pollutants of standard truck diesel. we get a fairly good then wait a. bit on jordan not. me but yes that it. would definitely finance the idea that i mean. that if you think that the. news isn't alone in choosing a private sick to structure for its pool. luna's pull out europe's biggest the cruise ships is also partially privatized the city was not always so attractive to tourists the turnin