now, do you think sandra fluke is an extremist, mary katharine?i think most of what she pitches is a little extreme. she was up on the stage talking about how everyone should pay for everyone else's birth control. which. >> bill: so you think. >> the agencies from her. >> bill: wait, wait. you guys -- you have got to answer my questions. you think she is an extremist, correct, mary katharine. >> i think she is outside. yes. >> bill: do you think the president of planned parenthood is extremist as well. >> outside the mainstream as well. here is the allegation from them on stage that the -- that people like me allegedly want to take us back to some sort of dark age for women which apparently is three months ago when you might have to pay for your birth control is the 10% of plans that don't cover it didn't cover you. i think it's ridiculous. i do think about harassment the dnc was a distraction on those social i. the other half was a super keen time warp so the rose colored glasses version of the 1990s. i think that's what people saw as well. >> yo

fox news analyst mary katharine ham and juan williams. juan, are you getting the page that i gave to president obama that if you raise the cap gains tax, you raise it up to the high 20's where the president wants it. fewer people, people like me, are going to invest in the stock market, companies will get less money in investment, that means there will be fewer jobs. are we understanding that, juan. >> i think history tells us a different story. i think the cap gains rate was higher during the 1990s and people were investing and making lots of money. in fact, we didn't have even have a deficit. >> ill. >> bill: bill then when when we ran into trouble president bush lowered the cap gains and then we got out of trouble because more money came in. and led to the highest amount of federal tax revenue in history, juan. >> did we get out of trouble? >> bill: no, no. no. because we had the wars and we had the war on terror and all of that. but the facts are the facts. highest amount of tax revenue ever flowing into washington came under presiden

you say mary katharine? >> sounds a little bit like fighting words.onfidence is good to project in campaign. getting too cocky can be problematic. they just spent entire convention getting their base excited don't want to go on tv and say the election is forgone conclusion. >> that's what she just said. she is the house minority leader. >> i i think that's a bad idea. also not a great idea when high level political figures suggest that elections are forgone conclusions. there is a process for a reason. >> a lot of democrats do. wipe romney out. it's not even going to be close. >> i don't know a lot of democrats wipe out. as far as nancy pelosi goes. i think it's perfectly very very common for leaders to take that line. they just aren't going to engage in the idea that, you know, that the president is going to lose. that doesn't mean that they don't actually think that the president could potentially lose. right now if you look at the polls, reuters poll out about 5. look at some the of the swing states doing. let's feel confident. >> before i do that

mary katharine ham. hotair.com and fox news contributor.e a feeling i know which way you two are going to see these two platforms. but, juan, the question is, the suggestion is, that democrats have gone deep blue with some of their planks. republicans went vivid red. some examples on the democratic side the platform calls for more taxes on the rich. no restrictions on abortion. even taxpayer funding for abortion as a right. and same-sex marriage is endorsed. is that where the democratic mainstream is right now? >> yeah, i think that's right, jon. i think one of the things actually duval patrick, the governor of massachusetts did last night here on a night of great speeches was to raise the roof, here are things we believe in. this is what we believe in. one of those was allowing people who love somebody to marry them without regard to the society determining the gay marriage or not appropriate. and same thing with abortion. that a woman should have the right to make that choice for herself. i would, i want to say one thing to you, jon. it i

juan williams, mary katharine ham. thank you both. >> thank you, jon.enna: back to a little politics here. democrats in congress may have a new strategy, going after the republican presidential ticket by attacking the vice-presidential candidate who is currently a congressman paul ryan. what is that all about? what is the strategy. we'll dig a little deeper into that. continuing coverage of the killing, assassination, really, let's face it of the ambassador in libya, murdered by rioters outside the embassy there. we're live at the state department and the pentagon with the very latest. that is just ahead here on fox news. jon: democrats in congress taking potshots at republican vice-presidential nominee paul ryan. the senate majority leader getting in a dig talking about judicial nominations jabbing congressman ryan a mistake recalling marathon time from more than 20 years ago. >> senator toomey the week we went out gave a speech the reason we don't have two republican judges in pennsylvania because i'm holding them up. i'm holding them up. i mean you t

mary katharine ham is the editor-at-large at hotair.com and a fox news contributor. juan williams is a fox news political analyst. welcome to you both. good to see you this morning. >> good morning. martha: juan, let me start with you. what is going on here? >> sounds to me their position is evolving as they appear to learn more. i'm kind of curious they say initially there was no evidence it was premeditated or preplanned. it occurred on september 11th could make you think, hey it could be and al qaeda connection they're now investigating. i don't know at this point there is anything more here than language. when they say it is obviously a terrorist attack that is advance for them because the obama administration has been very reluctant to call anything terrorist. as you know, they have been using this manmade disaster euphemism that i find so crazy. martha: on the right-hand side of the screen we were showing the video believed to be from the night outside of that compound in benghazi. you can see rpg's in this video. just a few people are out there in the street.

mary katharine ham, editor-at-large of hotair.com and fox news contributor.ng to both of you on a friday. is there truth to this? >> i mean i think this is just a fact of life. as somebody right of center i deal with this a lot of the time. i don't think you can sort of make a bunch of excuses for it but i do think this isn't just in my imagination. if you look back to evan thomas who used to work in "newsweek" saying 2004, media might be worth five to 15 points to john kerry. that is election. bill: that is big deal when the country is kind of 50/50. you say fact of life. >> people go into media are mostly liberal. there are new options opening for conservatives and more voices are heard than ever before. we're farther along to correct things. bill: do you sit back and accept it? say that is just the way it is? >> no. these days especially last couple of years there are flourishing groups that do conservative work, do investigative work on things mainstream press doesn't do investigative work on and you're hearing those offices more and more often. bill: jua