i'm going to give mary katharine the last word, go. >> i have one more simple question. why is it the obama, biden, the white house why haven't heard in request testified to and further not only heard about it teat he and in the vice presidential debate. he could have tuned in and watch the hearing either incompetence or misdirection. it can't be neither. >> bill: all right. good debate. very lively. directly ahead. brutal brutal senate race in massachusetts. now some union workers say they are being forced to campaign the democrat candidate elizabeth warren. adam carolla, bernie goldberg and jesse watters, it may be too much. we'll be right back. >> bill: campaign 212 segment tonight, brutal senate race in massachusetts between republic incumbent scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren. polls say the race is very tight and now there is a new controversy. some union workers in the bay state say, they are being punished if they don't campaign for miss warren. >> do you get fined if you are not there. >> my dad got fined. >> how much did he get fined. >> 150

i'm going to give mary katharine the last word, go. >> i have one more simple question. why is it the obama, biden, the white house why haven't heard in request testified to and further not only heard about it teat he and in the vice presidential debate. he could have tuned in and watch the hearing either incompetence or misdirection. it can't be neither. >> bill: all right. good debate. very lively. directly ahead. brutal brutal senate race in massachusetts. now some union workers say they are being forced to campaign the democrat candidate elizabeth warren. adam carolla, bernie goldberg and jesse watters, it may be too much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] every day, thousands of people are choosing advil®. here's one story. i'sean. i swited to advil® 10 months ago. biking can be really tough on the lower back and your upper thighs. u have some nasty aches and pains. i really like advil® because it takes care of it all. neck ache, shoulder pain and definitely lower back pain. i use advil® because my wife, she's a nurse, she recommended it. [ male announcer ] ma

i'm going to give mary katharine the last word, go. >> i have one more simple question. why is it the obama, biden, the white house why haven't heard in request testified to and further not only heard about it teat he and in the vice presidential debate. he could have tuned in and watch the hearing either incompetence or misdirection. it can't be neither. >> bill: all right. good debate. very lively. directly ahead. brutal brutal senate race in massachusetts. now some union workers say they are being forced to campaign the democrat candidate elizabeth warren. adam carolla, bernie goldberg and jesse watters, it may be too much. we'll be right back. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteri

mary katharine ham, editor-at-large for hotair.com. fox news contributor.uan williams is fox news political analyst. he is out in denver. good to see you both. mary katherine, the president, however has a commanding lead among women. why is that? what is he going to do about it? what is romney going to do about it and is romney going to try to address that tonight? >> well i think in 2010 there was a swing towards republicans among independents and among women. the republicans actually won them in 2010. i think that freaks democrats out rightly and they went on the rampage on this messaging, you heard the war on women theme all summer long which was mostly fabricated and, i think it had some success. they have been worried about, mitt romney doesn't have to win women. what he has to do is peel off some of obama's voters. they were rightly trying to shore that up. i think that is what he is up against. but i think showing them on the debate stage, look, i'm a guy who is confident, who is smart, who can discuss the eschews. i think you can make some progress

mary katharine ham and juan williams both fox news analyst. juan, a fair ad. >> all is fair in love war and politics. this is an example of it of course, effective ad. viewed in isolation it's effective gosh one man served his country and the other guy was drunk in a bar. it does ignore the fact that murphy was a college freshman 19 years old. it does open the door to looking at west' military record. you remember he was criminally charged with assault and essentially booted out of the military before they had a trial you know who stuck up for west back then, don't you? >> who? >> bill: me. because he saved the lives 6 the men in his platoon. he violated procedure. he fired the gun, okay? but he would do what i would do, what you would do juan, what anybody would do. >> absolutely. if our men were in danger and we would fire a gun near somebody and get them to talk, we're the enemy. i would fire the gun. rules have to be followed. west understood it he took his punishment like a man. mary katharine what do you think about the ad. >> first, col

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with me mary katharine ham, editor-at-large of hotair.com and a fox news contributor.d they are tear jerkers. i mean they just make coal seem like the mostville news industry in the u.s. -- villain news. >> let'se clear sierra club wants us to abandon coal entirely. i don't want to discount anybody ace pain. it is certainly there. that's their intent and they're ignoring entire part of a these communities who have jobs, who have economic viability. who have homes. and things happen in their communities because coal is is there. it is the mother's milk of our entire economy and has been for many years as far as electricityty goes. things are changing these days. it is getting a little bit less. this is reason why united mine workers is sitting out this election. they're not endorsing obama even thoh they did in '08 because regulatory policies are taking down the number of coal jobs. it is actually hurting these communities in different ways but the sierra club is not noting. >> there are a lot of important facts here. together, all these plants in the u.s. that are fire

mary katharine ham is the editor-at-large of hotair.com. also a fox news contributor. simon rosenberg, the president and founder of the new democrat network. a former clinton campaign advisor. you heard governor romney there in florida. florida has had its share of misery. i was living there when hurricane andrew hit. how do you conduct a political campaign in this environment, simon, you know, when so many people are hurting, have no power, the last thing they want to hear or on television on the radio is another attacked a? >> well i think there, the president is being the president. i mean he's out, obviously at red cross and at fema and he is clearly leading the recovery effort right now. i think he has a little bit of a political advantage over mitt romney in the sense that mitt romney is just a candidate trying to talk about what is going on when the president has the advantage of actually being responsible for the recovery effort right now. and i think he is doing a good job. he has been praised by pub be republicans and democrats alike last few days for being r

let's talk about it with juan williams and editor at large and fox news contributor mary katharine ham. agee h rmeth pe,n g tioodothab foreign policy and america's stature overseas? >> welcome i think they worry about national security, especially in the years since 11. that has been a major item on thameran anda. tom i ilab omkvt their number one concern seems to be the concern of jobs and the jobs must be at the top of the ticket. ine x has been acag mnams iis l oukihiou est a'ip of the economy and much more about looking ahead in sing that mitt romney can do a better job in terms of generating those jobs quickly and getting a spu.ectory of the recovery to jon: when mitt romney made his speech at the virginia military institute, he pointed to a lot of the president promises on foreign policy and what he calls failures or mistakes and essentially said that tis le afurs ihaleft us less and dohaso wvtrs >> i think that he is wrong that debt and deficit is number one jobs is uw. aa e a es amongst the administration, number two, it does hamper obama's ability to press his advantage on for

fox news contributor, mary katharine ham, editor-at-large for hotair.com. margie o'mara. yst lcc. we got all this in. good to see you ladies. >> good morning. >> good morning. jamie: mary katherine, vice president biden said paul ryan needed to get his facts straight. but then he presented a scenario that seemed to contradict in every way the hearings and testimony we had regarding what the administration knew about security needs, security requests and also, who was behind the attack. film, not film. what are your thoughts? >> vice president biden talked about in the debate taking responsibility. i think stephanie cutter's comments from the campaign are the ultimate in evading responsibility, suggesting that this is only an issue because romney and ryan are talking about it. it is an issue because the american people have an inherent and natural interest, very keen interest in their national security and in whether americans are safe oversees. four people died. four americans died and people have to answer for it. the administration has been misleading on this from day on

mary katharine ham, editor-at-large for hotair.com, a juan williams, political analyst are both fox newstributors. what is happening you two? bono is u2 but you are bigger than bono. romney will say, 23 million people are out of work or looking for work. 4 million people on food stamps up from four years ago. he will argue 16 trillion of debt in the past four years. that is his closing argument, right? >> his argument beyond that i have a plan. he will go over the five-point plan. he will make it very explicit. his main issue hey check out the last four years we're five trillion more in debt than we were when we started. are you better off than you were five trillion ago? i'm not sure the answer is yes for very many people. that is what he able to gain ground on in the performance in the first debate. folks did not expect to see a guy they thought they could trust and put economy in his hand. people are turning on that. if you see "the washington post" abc poll this week he is gaining significant ground, romney not only on trusting to handle the economy i actually think you might underst

let's talk about it with juan williams and editor at large and fox news contributor mary katharine ham. you agree with the premise that most people, when they go to the voting booth, don't think about foreign policy and america's stature overseas? >> welcome i think they worry about national security, especially in the years since 9/11. that has been a major item on the american agenda. at the moment, it is still about the economy if you ask voters, their number one concern seems to be the concern of jobs and the jobs must be at the top of the ticket. there has been a change. in the example of that, the romney camp has said it is less about making this about president obama's trip of the economy and much more about looking ahead in saying that mitt romney can do a better job in terms of generating those jobs quickly and getting a trajectory of the recovery to speed up. jon: when mitt romney made his speech at the virginia military institute, he pointed to a lot of the president promises on foreign policy and what he calls failures or mistakes and essentially said that this president ha

mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hotair.com and a fox news contributor. od morning to both of you. >> hey, bill. bill: i don't know, mary katherine. you can stretch the truth. you can bend the facts but you're a liar? >> well, i think it might have been an upgrade for obama to look like a blind squirrel according to even some of his liberal critics the other night. he was a blind squirrel with altitude sickness according to gore. i think what this is, he didn't win on substance. didn't win on style. just one of three debates. i think he will certainly get better in the next two. there was a lot of pretty ugly, embarrassing excuse making right after the event including altitude sickness one from gore is my personal favorite. maybe they decided it will be more dignified to call him a liar. this is a strategy. happened after paul ryan's speech. if you can't call them dumb, call them a liar. turning what are basically political disagreements call them a liar. bill: after ryan's speech in tampa? >> that was the immediate response from them. basic strategy and t

juning us for a fair and balanced debate, mary katharine ham, hotair.com and simon rosenberg, from a leading progressive think tank and former clinton campaign advisor as well. we brought you both on because you have differing views of the debate last night. mary katherine you think essentially it was a draw. >> i think it was more contentious because in the first debate only one side was fightinging a many even on the left have said. obama would come to the table with more this time, be more aggressive. i think romney relies less on likeability than obama does. there is more risk for him coming after somebody hard that way. i think mostly a tie. see in post-debate polling, a slight win for obama on the top line but when you look a little bit lower on issues like the economy and both cnn and "cbs poll" a double-digit lead for romney how he handled that and the debt. those are really important issues. i'm not sure that a narrow second debate win overcomes those. jon: simon, you wrote that you don't think mitt romney showed himself to be a strong leader last night. you think he hurt him