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mary katharine, let's begin with you tonight. how do you react to mr.ctfully disagree on a couple points. do i agree on this point which is we should not discount our ability to ataksim -- assimilate. >> wishes we weren't so good at it there is that i think and i'm not sure about mr. will's policy prescription per se. but, here is one thing he mentions which is, look, these it numbers are not going to overwhelm americans. i think that's true if they were, you know, distributed evenly across the country. here's the problem. what we're not dealing with is that if you -- if that's your policy, that everybody who comes stays without going through any process, then you are not dealing with the many, many thousands that will come after that which will be a bigger problem. already got a humanitarian crisis on the border. the federal government has shown that it's unable to deal with this at that moment. we don't have plan for how to fix that. >> right. mr. will is going to say that, yes, we should accept all the children. then he has to accept children all ove

mary katharine why do you think is he not solving the problems?t sure that he particularly grasps or cares where he is on that polling front or thinks that it matters. it certainly doesn't change his rhetoric or his speeches because, i mean, even liberals have noted, look, why does the an tag donnis stick tone help him offer a solution if i thinks this package of 3.7 billion is the solution, then why are you then bashing the very people you need to agree to. i don't think it's a particularly good strategy. you have a humanitarian problem for many reasons, partly because these kids face violence at home. partly because they heard from coyote, the infamous administration they would be able to stay. this administration is not great at having a plan for solving something like this. either because they don't want to or because they are incompetent. so you end up with this problem. humanitarian problem you want to deal with humanely and hats off on my end as well to glenn beck when conservatives and when americans see a problem that the government is no

mary katharine ham, what can we fear?en but will continue into the future, the government health minders when it comes to food. what has been the refrain since i've been alive is fat will make you fat. therefore you should eat all low-fat things, what happens. we put a bunch of carbs in the low-fat things that taste bad taste good. matt: and load it with sugar. >> you can't buy full fat yogurt, i try. because they've gotten to the point. and it's coming to the future with sodium. eggs were bad, cholesterol bad and they're going after salt even though it is anti-science to say it is bad for you. >> what are you feared of? . >> technology, the precautionary principle seems to be the guiding light how we go about regulating the world around us. we see drones come into existence and people say my god, it's sky net. google glass, it's frightening and terrifying, there ought to be a law to keep it away from us. when you are overzealous of regulation, you forfeit cool innovations that are hard to parse out. you don't know what n

we have alan combs and mary catherine -- mary katharine ham here. let's play more of the sound from yesterday. >> it isn't crazy. it isn't socialism. [laughter] >> you know, it is not the imperil pregnancy. no laws are broken. we are just building roads and bridges like we have been doing were the last, i don't know, 50- 50-100 years. >> mary katharine, what do you make of the tone? >> it is flippant. i don't think it is a good legal argument particularly in the wake of the 9-0 recess appointment case. i think when boehner talks about this the supreme court bolstered their position. this is the government trying amass power and they get knocked back because someone goes suit, goes through the system we have, and they say you cannot do that. that is what happened to president obama this week. some things are within bound, but many are not. and legal experts agree on this. the tone isn't helpful when he wants to go to congress and says here is all i want and give me more authority for what i think on the immigration issue. but if you make fun of them

>> juan williams and mary catherine -- mary katharine is here.rles says the jobs of the leader is to shorten that ark and be an active participant in the process and influence world events. what do you say to this? >> there is a ton of partisanship exposed here and i think the idea is that somehow because the president goes off with fundraising or playing golf he is not engaged in the world or detached from major events that are shaping the world. and that is why we have the perception of the world going to hell. >> juan, are you okay -- it is almost like he is responding -- everyone on the streets says what is going on in the world and people are unsettled and the president isn't reflecting that in his own demeanor? >> you are talking about demeanor. what i look at is reality and what he is doing. if i look at what he is doing in ukraine in terms of helping the ukrainians and putting sanctions in place and rallying the europeans to act with urgency i say he is engaged. if i look at the middle east and the peace talk attempts between the israelis

joining us from washington mary katharine ham and in the studio juan williams both fox news analysts.been very generous to the president. i think president obama is right. he is headed for -- i think brit hume is right is he heading counsel to history as a big trouble. >> i disagree. he is in trouble. there is no question there is a doubt about his ability to react constructively and get it done constructively as far as bipartisanship. this immigration reform thing has not happened. >> when you have al baghdadi defying him. speaking in mosul, iraq. >> that was awful. >> we are going to attack everybody and we don't care. he doesn't fear obama. >> apparently he doesn't fear anything. i don't understand why we didn't take that guy out. >> i don't either. they let him out. >> that's before. he is going to stand up in mosul, i would think that we could locate him and kill him. >> i don't know about that awful i know is that you have this army now that is now entrenched. they are fearless. they will don't think that we are going to do anything and for weeks president obama has dithered and

. >> joining us from washington juan williams and here in the studio mary katharine ham.id last week i don't think that the president cares anymore what the anyone thinks of him do you concur. >> i'm 100% with you on this. presidents can do things like golf and take vacations. >> nobody begrudges that. >> politic and do the running of the country at the same time. the sense that the american people increasingly and the press as well. is that he is only doing the politicking and not doing. >> but there is a way do you it, look, if an airliner shot out of the sky by a missile, i think i would cancel by burger joint. >> that's what i said. it's just how it looks. not like you can do anything about it it's how it looks they complain that's all about optics. the white house is a political place and do you have to deal with that the other thing is if you had taken one thing off the plate that day. the burgers, the joking speech in delaware or the fundraisers, i think everybody would have been fairly forgiving. >> one thing offer the plate. >> i try. >> looking at him playing go