mary katherine, you say. think you're on target on a bunch of this, and we've reached a turning point of sorts, but that doesn't mean that folks who believe what romney believes or believed in general to the right of center as juan was pointing out, many people still do, that that can't result in electoral victory in the future. you're correct that it takes a special person. it takes a special person in barack obama to bring the left where it is right now and frankly surprised it got here and takes somebody to connect with people who is charismatic and smart and takes to people in a smart way where you are not demonizing anybody that i or bill is doing that in explicit ways, but you have to cross the cultural barriers and reach folks. >> bill: and also talk in a way that challenges them. i mean, look, as you said, most hispanic-americans are catholic, right? they're family oriented, strongly, very, very tradition in the hispanic predicts, family, family, family. and yet, they rejected all of that. they reject

mary katherine still looking aghast. i will start with you. looks like juan is almost alone now in the defense of this dopey newspaper. what do you think is going on with williams? >> there's a long answer but we will cut to the chase. these are first semester journalistic efforts. so basic even the new york times has this. this is me agreeing with the new york times. it is different often between things that are public and whether they are news worthy whether you should be pairing those things in the newspaper. these are something journalists tackle all of the time. there are a lot of things that are public. they are probably juicy and fun to read but are you doing a public service by printing them? people on food stamps most people would argue that wouldn't be a good idea to print those with data and addresses and names after then. at least one of these homes have been burglarized that was on the list. i would argue it was not a safe thing to do or best thing to do. didn't serve a news person. >>> what do you think now that your liberal pals

mary katherine, you say. i think you're on target on a bunch of this, and we've reached a turning point of sorts, but that doesn't mean that folks who believe what romney believes or believed in general to the right of center as juan was pointing out, many people still do, that that can't result in electoral victory in the future. you're correct that it takes a special person. it takes a special person in barack obama to bring the left where it is right now and frankly surprised it got here and takes somebody to connect with people who is charismatic and smart and takes to people in a smart way where you are not demonizing anybody that i or bill is doing that in explicit ways, but you have to cross the cultural barriers and reach folks. >> bill: and also talk in a way that challenges them. i mean, look, as you said, most hispanic-americans are catholic, right? they're family oriented, strongly, very, very tradition in the hispanic predicts, family, family, family. and yet, they rejected all of that. they reje

joining us from washington, mary katherine ham and juan williams, both fox news analysts. juan, you used to work for "the washington post"? what about that piece, the o'reilly-romney view of the world and sounds like i ran and he's vp on the ticket. >> when they start with the name calling, i've got no use for it, bill. i had to deal with it as a black person on school vouchers, as well as comments about airport. that's not the what i said, that's not what i'm thinking and that's just crazy. and i think that romney and ryan, romney spoke about the president's base as if he was rewarded elements of the base. ryan spoke about an urban population, that's getting closer and it's worrisome, but the real issue i have and the one i want to discuss with you is what you said in the talking points memo because i don't think people necessarily voted in terms of their economic interests. i think there are lots of poor people, i think there are lots of seniors who receive medicare and social security who voted for mitt romney. i think there are lots of people in the suburbs of new york

martha: bob, mary katherine, look forward to with more fun. >> four years to get mad at him. >> don'ttha: i like when you come up to the set. >> we do too. gave us 60 seconds notice from the basement. martha: good workout. bill: i thought you were a georgia girl? you're north carolina? >> i went to school in georgia but go dogs. martha: he is laughing. bill: iran claims that an american pastor imprisoned since september will be freed. his wife says don't buy it for a minute. why she says that report is just a flat-out lie. >>> plus as the gun debate rages we talk with criminals serving time on how they got their weapons. there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job, the pitch! whoa! so why are you doing his? only your doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn is actually something more serious like acid reflux disease. over time, stomach acid can damage the lining of your esophagus. for many, prescription nexium not only provides 24-hour heartburn relief, but can also help heal acid-related erosions in the lining of your esophagu

martha: the sensibility issue here, i want to put this quote to mary katherine, there is sensibilityssue here. let's look at this quote from president obama. it really struck me when i saw these words. every american can be proud our military will grow stronger with our mothers, wives, sisters, and daughters playing a great he will role in protecting the country we love. it put an image in mind, our mothers, our daughters, our sisters? it conjures up a lot of things. and i wonder when they're out there and in these combat positions, whether, you know, men feel this protective instinct to some certain extent that might change the dynamic out there. i don't know if that is the case. mary katherine you take that on and then juan. >> i do think it is not something we can entirely discount. it is powerful cultural norm to protect. not necessarily all cultural and sometimes can be biological and hardwired. that is something to worry about unit cohesiveness and how that works. the military is very good accommodating new things and working through these and making them merit-based. i hope th

i think that is why people voted as they did, don't you mary katherine?i think that may be. >> i think that was part of it. but i think the obama administration made a point, in the campaign made a point we're this kaleidoscope and they can not be that. i don't think that would be case in that cabinet. for that reason he needs to be very careful how to make these appointments. seems no one is on point for this. nobody is in charge. didn't seem that last time around with daschle and geithner, others not having paid their taxes or vetted properly. martha: really question of actions versus words. who do you surround yourself with? who do you talk to? here is sound bite from october 19th in the heat of campaign. it is worth listening to in light of this conversation. >> you don't want someone who needs to ask for binders of women. [cheers and applause] you don't want that guy. you want a president who is already appointed two unbelievable women to the supreme court of the united states. [cheers and applause] martha: so the first part of that is self-evident.

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mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor.> obama's best form is not necessarily a press conference which is why he does than do many of them. i which he was testy for one real reason. the republicans trying to take the full faith and crucify the united states currency and putting it at fist being. i'd invoke the 14th amendment, we'd problem below know that if we spent more time with the republicans wasting time on the floor of the house. i thought he ought to raise it and to hell with congress. martha: we talked to stewart varney and kirsten said in that sound byte, this isn't about default, people don't think we aren't going to pay the debt on the debt service. the i shall eye is how you get there and whether you're going to cut any spending. >> i think he was petulant, i don't think he enjoys the press conferences because he often gets into unforced area. i appreciate people people putting back on him on his comments in 2006 and he got caught. you guys get ready for this "washington post" fact check her gave it an upside do

am i the only one that thinks she looks like mary katherine hamm who is beautiful? >> i do see the resemblance. on top of everything, you have a person who is actually a beauty queen, has chosen to be, to let us celebrate her beauty and we have. she's a current reigning miss alabama, and top ten must usa. it's crazy to me that espn felt he went too far in doing what all the judges at the competition did and millions of americans did as well. final thing, leaving the viewers with some sense of security in their lives. fine to go up to a woman and say, just want to tell you you look beautiful, fine? >> yes, and by the way, on the streets of new york when i see a striking woman who is really put together well, i will stop her on the street and say, you look fantastic. you look gorgeous and brightens their face and lightens up their entire day. it's a good thing to give a compliment. >> megyn: i don't know the woman who doesn't like to be told she's beautiful, kirsten? >> that's right. >> megyn: remember that. you're both beautiful. >> you, too. >> thank you so much. >>

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there's a project in new hampshire that katherine barber and mary -- [inaudible] are running through the harvard injury center where they've worked with gun shops to get the people who sell guns in these gun shops to put out brochures and posters about the risks of suicide with a gun. that encourages -- it has, it encourages conversations, it gives them information about who to call if they're having trouble or they're worried about somebody else. and just like the mothers against drunk driving movement that changed whether it was acceptable for me to tell you, you know, you're drunk, give me the keys, i'll drive you home or to have a designated driver, we've got to get to a point through civic, civil and factually-grounded conversation where it's just as logical for me to tell you i foe -- i know you've been going through a hard time, you're going through a divorce, your kid has just failed a grade, broke up with his girlfriend, looks depressed, let me help you get rid of that gun temporarily until the crisis passes. and what we need to do is to build an infrastructure that makes it

katherine, thanks so much. we'll talk to you next time. >> thank you. >> let's get to mary thompson on this tuesday morning. >> look at shares of travelers. the dow component stock up off the highs of the day, still a nice 3% gain there. the reason the company's operating earnings handily beating estimates at 72 cents a share. on the conference call, they said the company is confident going into 2013, despite a challenging operating environment that continues to focus on the low rates that they are dealing with, and also weather related catastrophes. additionally, autos a weakness, but the company is confident the higher rates will eventually be offset by a lower accident impact from that business. we're watching that again. travelers up over 3% on the very, very strong earnings. >> thank you, mary thompson. insurance helping the financials. >>> coming up next, a member of hilton world's top brass joins us live. the chances for an ipo. former fdic chair sheila bair the day after the president's inaugural address. what's her take on the president's argument about the debt ceiling. [ male announcer ] don't just

my name is katherine lopez, and 10 minutes later the person will come back and say, you are k love -- k l o! kelly n conley is the president of the polling company women trend. you and mary matalin are in a class by yourselves. some students sound bite machines. -- substantive sound bite machines. getting clear to the point, i go to ali and -- kelly-ann. i was on tv for the first time with you. it was on msnbc. back in the day when msnbc covered -- it would have been hell if you had not been there, too. because we seemed to be the only people who cared about the abuse of power and silly things like that. syndicated columnist, author mona charon. [applause]we were just reminiscing about the old days of capital gang. mona is a hard-core -- i watched on saturdays and sundays. i took an immediate liking to you. i saw you on cnn before i started reading you. she just exuded this grounded mess and a joy. ever since i have gotten to know her, she has that a great family around her. you can see where that is all coming from. it is a reminder, even in politics, about what is really important. and genevieve wood is the vice president of marketing at the heritage foundation. >> tha