but, nonetheless, i think that they have the same concerns. >> so, mary katherine, why wasn't havingst female president the same motivating factor that having the first african-american president was? >> i think because it was counterbalanced with a bunch of baggage is one thing. i think the hillary clinton campaign hoped she was a symbol for a powerful womanhood and to many people she was. to the other people, she was a symbol of everything that is wrong with this washington, powerful, super rich structure that they don't feel is benefiting them. you cannot separate her from that part of her career. and she had trouble communicating to people because -- let's be honest. she is very far removed from a normal american life for quite a long time and many candidates are. i think barack obama was closer when he ran. so, he was better able to speak to that. and, so, i think it's just impossible to separate her from that past and her entire career. and become like sort of a clean symbol of just womanhood and people recognized that. >> so, go ahead, kirsten. >> i do think, first of all, it'

>> mary katherine? >> i feel like we're talking about all of those things.nd i feel like the clintons, including hillary clinton, have been attacked over many years, because they've done many shady things and tried to cover them up and gotten themselves in trouble doing that. which is exactly the story of the e-mails. and you see the truth of this and exactly what people think about her coming out in the wikileaks podesta e-mails and in the fbi investigation. and voters have a gut feeling about her, that is not wrong. it comes from things she has done, not from just who she is. >> okay. so, i will throw this in, because samantha bee makes no bones about it. she does want hillary clinton to become president and not donald trump. proof, listen. >> can you tell us a spooky story about what happens if people don't vote? >> donald trump could be president. >> okay. that was very scary. >> yeah. >> let me make it even scarier for you. supreme court justice corey lewandowski. speaker of the house, louie gohmert. >> that was pretty scary. i'm not sure i'm going to s

they're getting out the vote. >> mary katherine, effective?ok, these folks are often base boosters, as kirsten is saying. he wrote one of the verses of rump shaker which was formative in my high school and middle school career. >> that's awesome. very quickly. let's play president obama yesterday on the campaign trail, as well. you can tell me about his message. listen to this. >> if you disrespected women before you were in office, you will disrespect women as president. if you accept the support of clan sympathizers before you are president, you will accept their support after you are president. >> kirsen, your thought on that message? >> if you listen to the whole speech yesterday, it really was, i think, one of barack obama's best, you know, performances. i mean, he really is just hitting every issue and i think he's doing it in a way that is kind of funny, but also serious. he's just kind of the perfect surrogate. i think it is effective and this kind of message, again, is very effective with young people who have a very low toleration fo

mary katherine, what do you think the obama effect, as it's called, will mean?well, a couple things. he clearly enjoys being on the trail and something he has been good at in the past and mostly good at it on behalf of himself. he does not have a great record when he's out there stumping for other folks as we've seen during his it's different in a presidential year, but his popularity numbers are up and they're good. partly good because they're good in comparison to the damaged goods on both sides of this race and that's one of those folks is who he is making an argument for. i think it will help some with the base but not the sort of killer app that people make it out to be. >> his numbers are also good compared to his predecessors. as you can see, he is now at 55% compared to where president bush was at the same time. 27%. bill clinton was basically neck and neck with obama, 57%. reagan at 51%. so, what do you think his effect will be for hillary clinton? >> i think it's already been great. you know, we talked about ad nauseam the enthusiasm gap here in this r

we have mary katherine ham, ron brownstein, abby phillip. this interesting proposition that alisyn was putting to tim kaine. you say that you're going to be good for all of america and you have this unique hillary coalition. the question is, does that coalition think that kaine and clinton are for them? >> yeah, well, i think that coalition does, but the other coalition is really in a different place. you know, go back to the '90s. a lot of people who voted for bill clinton respected george h.w. bush or bob dole. in 2000 it was commonplace. even obama/mccain. i think a lot of people respected the other candidate. look at the polling now. 90% of clinton voters say they have a deeply unfavorable view of trump. 90% of trump voters say they have a deeply unfavorable view of clinton. whoever wins will come in with 45% of the country really, really unhappy they're president and probably a divided government as well. certainly if clinton wins. so there's a lot of work to do to find any kind of reasonable coalition that can move forward on the big c

mary katherine, let's go through the big announcements today that we know. first let's talk about the attorney general, jeff sessions. the nominated attorney general jeff sessions. your thoughts? >> the thing that strikes me about all of these is they are on brand, they are not guys who are pushing back a bunch on donald trump. they are people who will be in his wheel house. but they are serious folks and people who are known on capitol hill. sessions for his part is going to get some complaints about the racial remarks that were alleged that derailed a judge position for him in the past but the collegial nature of the senate means he's going up against folks who he knows and they have a tendency to want to confirm their own. the other issue for him, he was instrumental in passing the fair sentencing act which is a mandatory minimums law that was designed to fix disproportionate problems for african-americans in sentencing for drug crimes. there are different parts of his resume to look at on that point. >> it's fascinating, all three jobs are hugely importa

mary katherine, there is this question about whose party is it after this election.he question is being asked right now and it will really be asked after this election, look, if donald trump wins there's a clear winner, a clear answer to whose party it is. if he loses, what's the answer? >> yeah. i think the fight is raging as margaret points out, that's going on behind the scenes right now. a little more context, one of the happiest men in america is john boehner, who kicked back with a 9 iron and bordeaux. then paul ryan, the whole time he's been speaker, i wasn't even supposed to be here today. it's not the most fun job in the world. but i think he wants a seat at the table in figuring out what that party is going forward which is why he will negotiate with these guys and will he likely run for this again. he didn't want to do this last time he got the call-up which is another clash reference, you're welcome, so here we are. >> she does, this is what's impressive. >> i know. she didn't read my intro. just blowing my mind. here's a tweet. try this on for size. mike

>> well, i don't think -- what mary katherine just said, but i'm not that surprised because i always thought this about him and the few times i interviewed him, it came through very clearly that he's not -- he's just not an idealogue. he really likes to make deals which is not a surprise to anybody. he's somebody who is a deal maker and is more sort of practical, i think, and really doesn't seem to hold grudges. when i had interviewed him it was towards the end of the primary and i asked him would he consider any of his opponents as potential vice president picks and even at that point he said yeah. he had kind of moved on. it wasn't -- people who he had been attacking so vigorously, now that he had defeated them or it looked like he had defeated them, he was a lot more gracious. i'm not surprised by this. i think the one thing that's concerning is we do have to wonder, i don't know which is his actual position. he can be so flexible on things like climate change, for example, how do we -- i don't really know what his actual position is. i think on a lot of issues, i think we have to

mary katherine let me start with this campaign for therefore recount in wisconsin, and it prompted donaldh a flood of tweets saturday night, sunday morning, sunday afternoon, and most shockingly. there is no evidence for this at all. >> right. it is as if the hillary folks don't seem to know what to do and they're lashing out at this jill stein recount thing. which, again, there is no evidence in any of those states what she sort of looks like, which is like the rest of the year in the campaign. . kellyanneconway, you said about conway alley. i have never seen any age of a president or president-elect boxed in like this. she plid to you, rare misread with sharp instinct. what do you make of this? they are playing off each other. >> i don't see how this relates to the recount and the point i was making, but let's answer this for a second. i've heard one person interprets it one way. some would say she was acting on her own, and others would say she was sent out to do that. what's and. i wouldn't be surprised if they met out with mitt romney to ask him to deal with him and then to have some

>> i'm mary katherine roper and the american civil liberties union. we are from the election protection coalition and we are training these folks to go out on the streets and offer voters information, help, back up if need be. raise your hand if you are an attorney. are you worried about a rigged election? >> we do this every election. the rights of voters have gotten more attention than they often do, but we are out here every election. frankly, there are always problems. administrative screw ups or voters don't know where they need to go or what id they need. make sure people get to vote. >> thank you very much. the one thing i think bears refeeting is turn out is key and these people make sure if you want to go to the polls, you can do it and exercise the basic civic right that hillary clinton will be here with president obama rallying everybody to come out and do this tomorrow. >> not a question of whether she will win, but how many votes she will get out of there. ahead of the big rally, thank you for that. talk about everything happening around

mary katherine? >> i'm making the case for not freaking out. now i make it about voter suppression.n my home state of north carolina, there's been complaints about early voting and allegedly keeping black voters out with the lower hours. if you look at the raw numbers, north carolina's early voting hours up, sites are up. even in the most complained about county, gillford county, overall hours are up and sites are up and turnout is up, at least today. let's everybody calm down. >> facts, bring facts into the conversation? >> i'm doing it. >> jackie. >> kind of jumping off that, every year, you hear they're sick of the ads, it's the worst part. well, you know, this year it's not that bad, guys. unless you live in florida, in 2012, $173 million went into that state between both campaigns. this year, we're at 120 -- about 128 million. in my home state of ohio, i hear it either year, they're just sick of them. it's amazing how little it is. $150 million spent in 2012. this year, 71 million. so, you know, guys, while it's tough, you don't have it as bad as you used to. >> sorry about you

i agree with mary katherine, it has to be perfect but i think it's a lot easier today than it was lasthael, as someone who covers law enforcement issues, you broke the story about hillary clinton's private e-mail issue. is it on for you that the fbi has become such an issue in this campaign? her server obviously became an issue as soon as you broke that story march 2nd, 2015. but now it's almost as if the competing leaks -- if almost as if the factions in the fbi are becoming weaponized. >> it's been politicized in a way it never has been before. it they like to just follow the facts and be as far away as possible. these stories make it seem like there's a civil war going on. i don't think it's that bad but they don't like to be in the headlines. they're certainly not going to say anything between now and election day. i think the less they do, the better. i think there is some window of thought they could do something today but they're certainly not going to say anything on monday. >> there was news today, two of chris christie, the governor of new jersey, two of his former aides conv

simone sanders and mary katherine ham. m.k., let me give you a shot to shoot down my premise. my premise is i heard donald trump when he doesn't like somebody or something and how he comes out against them, it is different than what he's doing with these alt-right/hate groups right now. fair prem sns. >> yeah. i think he's more interesting going after hillary clinton on the campaign trail than this which is one of the problems i brought up when he was running in a gop primary. one of the things he does is give oxygen. he gives oxygen to these. twitter accounts just by using his twitter account. i will say when it comes to the actual gathering of several hundred people that have been going on for several years now it's not like they sent an envoy over there. i think we need to be careful to say he's not involved with this group, right? >> well, that's, that's a point to make. simone sanders, there have been a lot of alt-right types who are going to d.c. and do believe this is their opportunity to be more relevant. what do you make of that? >> you know, i think that, for that pa

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katherine! >> reporter: rounding out the tr trio, singer janelle monet as nasa engineer mary jackson. >> mary jackson was a part of a new revolutionary group of young african-american people who were not going to take any more discrimination and disrespect from white people. >> i plan on being an engineer at nasa. >> this has got to be a dream come true, in a sense. are you absorbing this as a what's your relationship? >> from day one we just gelled. we laugh a lot. she's the lead in this movie so i refer to her as number one. >> when you walk in, oh, here's number three. >> i'm number three but i'm number one in the hearts of my crew. don't tell her that. don't tell her that because she will be heartbroken. >> kevin costner also joins the cast as the head of the space program putting these amazing women. >> i'm a supporting character in this movie but it is really the woman's story. >> i was watching a couple of scenes you were doing. jim parsons is there. this is a completely different performance for him. >> he's very small with things. but still you see this genius come out in the small things. >

katherine scott profiles one example of giving tuesday. >> it's no easy feat to raise thousands of shoes but the students at queen mary school are trying. >> we ask everyone in the our families. >> and the martino family provides. >> you know how many shoes are in that bag. >> i don't know but i think it's a lot. >> the school is running a shoe collection with funds to organize. the nonprofit buys the shoes from the school and ships them around the world. they can be sold or repurchased giving opportunities for families to buy businesses in their community. >> the money the school makes goes towards programming and equipment and any shoes are accepted as long as they are gently worn and anyone is able to drop or donations. >> i think i'm going to do that next. >> we really want to have the children understand tl is a bigger world around them. >> it teaches them a great lesson when they are growing up and they know no care for other people and be thankful for what they have. >> the drive started on november 4th and they have 2,000 pairs and posters and emails and announcements and phone calls. all with an effort to drum up support. a spe

katherine! >> reporter: rounding out the trio, singer janelle monet as nasa engineer mary jackson. >> mary jackson was a part of a new revolutionary group of young african-american people who were not going to take any more discrimination and disrespect from white people. >> i plan on being an engineer at nasa. >> this has got to be a dream come true, in a sense. learning experience? >> absolutely. i am learning fast. i'm working with two of the best women in the business. >> are they giving you any advice? >> yes. technical. as a performer, i'm always in front of the camera. but it is the different things when you're blocking somebody's light or when your nose is like in their close-up and you can always see your nose. those are little things i did have to get adjusted to. >> every time we have a chance to get >> tell me about working with janelle. >> she's very quiet. i'm sitting there scrolling through instagram and she'll post a part of her performance she had. i'll be like -- this is very different from the lady sitting next to me. >> you've got a terrific cast. you've got your pal, taraji. w