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sunday group, olivia beavers, juan williams, guy benson and host of "getting hammered" podcast, mary katherine-hamesting morning. here is the thing we have to think about, how this impacts '24 field and race. ap says new indictment throws trump back into the spotlight. they are all being forced to rush to his defense, too. >> yeah, two things going on, original sin of the legal fights against trump. fabrication of russia gate from ironically russian info. that is a problem. people on the right understand gop primary voters weary of thing. then there is the hilary clinton treatment they find to be not proportionate. he seems to be out to get himself. they are going to have to prosecute the case. >> shannon: grand jury is one sided. there is no defense of president trump. he starts that by at least the public part of this two big fiery speeches. never going to back down, keep fighting this. what about this idea now all the other contenders have to talk about it and whether they would pardon him. >> hard to stay on message with yourself. a lot of the republican base caught up in it and interested. wh

>> here with reaction columnist mary katherine ham and the host of tomi lahren is fearless. no such thing as a fearful tomi lahren. welcome both of you to the program. i want to go to the issue. i have grown to respect vivek ramaswamy. i like him a lot. he is serious and substantive. he is running and is passionate and bringing ideas. tim scott, nikki haley. asa hutchinson, not really. chris christie in this pole is at 1%. it seems all he wants to do is go on abc, fake news cnn, bash trump, bash trump and then get into debates in the hopes that he has another opportunity to bash trump to and aggrandize himself. am i wrong? >> you are not wrong. he is indulgent and likes to hear himself talk turkey sucks all the air out of the room. everything else out of the room, obviously. chris christie is doing this for himself. he is doing this because he likes to see himself and likes to talk to cnn and msnbc and all the liberal outlets that hate donald trump. they will put anybody on that will bash donald trump. is not a serious candidate. he will get no votes or support. he wants to

for example, mary katherine hamm tweeting it is very inspiring and empowering for a woman to be in anand atypical role as long as she's a democrat. and not in one of those weird insular marriages with only two people in it, you know, the clintons got it right. kayleigh, just when i think the mainstream media can't get any lower, they seem to find a new layer of fresh hell. it is disgusting what they are doing to the first lady of florida. >> kayleigh: it is. she's unstoppable. she's smart, she's strong, she's accomplished and she's conservative so she will be attacked. i read every word of this piece last night, it was north of 5,000 words and the themes were this. they love to be around each other. ron desantis and casey desantis. they're private. when he was in congress, he would leave at, if the vote was on noon, he'd be on the way to the airport to 12:06 because he wanted to see his family. sounds like a great marriage to me. the other complaint about ron desantis was this. there were three things he liked to talk about with his staff. the constitution, baseball and golf. i mean,

attorney general for national security mary mccord, and former assistant district attorney for manhattan, katherinehristian. i'm going to start here at the table and just go through what you just heard, those three bites of trump, because it sounds to me like his defense is i did it. >> yes. he, as andrew said, he's had multiple confessions he's made. his public statements are the gift that keeps giving for prosecutors, or plaintiffs attorneys. every time he speaks. i'm sure his attorneys say please don't speak, please don't, and he just keeps doing it. so he's admitted that he had the documents, and he contradicts himself also, because he said that he didn't look through the boxes. >> right. >> well, clearly he did, because there is an audiotape of him at the same golf club apparently waving around a document and then saying on it, well, it's confidential, and i could have just declassified it when i was president, but i didn't. so he is completely inconsistent, but he has given multiple confessions in this case. >> if you had someone on the stand in front of you as a prosecutor, and there were pr