mary katherine, biden family members packed the court for hunter's trial. help hunt i, do you think? -- hunter, do you think? >> prosecutors said this these people are not evidence in this trial. look, hunter biden is on tape, on video, on his own computer, on computer -- on photographs and in writing confessing to many a crime, most of them drug crimes, right? his father, the intelligence if community, some of the media have all conspired to keep him out of trouble, right? but whistleblowers came forward and said, hey, this stuff is real, he really did something wrong here. the thing he did wrong here is he's accused of lightening on a form to buy a gun -- lying on a form to buy a gun. and the question is whether he knowingly lied. so that's what the prosecution's attempting to do. on one hand, this is a paperwork crime, right? but on the other hand, it's a gun crime. this is a very dangerous guy in that moment in time if he's written about being severely addicted to crack cocaine and using it frequently. he was lying on a form to get a handgun. he gets th

mary katherine, election guru nate silver just released his highly anticipated forecasting model forction. not the debate, the election. he says trump has a 66% chance of winning. it's no longer a toss-up, says nate silver. do you think the election might be decided tonight, march key rath -- mary katherine in. >> i think it's a very big deal. the news cycle moves so fast, a week from now we might not think it's a big deal. but the risk for a catastrophic glitch for a candidate like biden is pretty high, higher than we've seen for most candidates in the past, and if something like that happened, it could make a huge difference, and democrats would get really panicked about the fact that he's on top of the ticket. "the new york times"/sienna poll has 68 of voters thinking he's too old. the flip side, if he does well for 30 minutes, everybody will be like, oh, look at this success. i think that's a challenge for trump as well. the expectations are, rightly, quite low for joe biden. stuart: set the bar low, and if he jumps over it, he's in. at least it's a success, put it like that. mar

to mary katherine's point he worries about how do you get your base together?ht just a few hours away, you know? we will no. >> sandra: apparently on-time that's pretty on time for joe biden. >> larry: mary catherine thinker much richard fowler thank you we appreciate it inflation remains a top concern for american voters, the question is will president biden continue the misleading claims about his economy? will he try it on the debate stage tonight, delma? bret baier is coming up please stick around much more come. speak of immigration thing is going to be an issue. i mean, that is a really devastating report for the biden administration on the isis people. >> that's a sticky one, right? [laughter] >> no kidding. >> larry: : secretary mallorca's thousands tied to a smuggling scheme as the border crisis is expected to be spot lit tonight. dames freeman here to discuss with larry and me next. ♪ ready or not here i come you can't hide ♪ ♪ i'm gonna find you and take it slow ♪ thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms

marry katherine, are the biden white house -- mary katherine, are they deliberately trying to creatession that every unflattering video of joe biden is somehow distorted and manipulated? >> yeah, look, it's their job to spin this. and i'm happy to talk about whether it needs if clarification or should have more context. one -- two points. politically, i don't think it's going to work because a large majority, even a majority of his 2020 voters think he's too old to go for another four years in some polling. this is not a controversial position. so to unconvince people that's the case becomes very hard. but i think there's something more stintster happening here which is -- sinister happening which is this cheap fakes is termed to be not just misleading -- howard: just bogus. >> the government sort of colluding with media on these amorphous terms like russian disinformation was overjoys used, a plausible, real threat that they blow up. and in order to protect the american people from this threat to american discourse, which is misinformation, disinformation or in this case cheap fakes

efforts underway in the yellow and orange states, but, mary katherine, it only takes a couple of statesone side or the other that can flip this whole thing. >> a couple states, not very many voters. so is that can be important. this goes back to the debate and the importance of why it was important. biden had a moment where he was garbled and unclear about his number one issue. trump, on the other hand, hit the liberalization of abortion rules in various states post-dobbs. he talked about exceptions that he supported. he looked like the moderate that he should look like to appeal and quell some of those concerns. not exactly a pitch like his economy pitch, but he sort of managed that, and it might make a difference moving forward. shannon: okay, before we go, who thinks that president biden stays on the ticket? you do? kevin, you think he doesn't? >> i've been saying three years that he won't. in fact, i first said that on this show. i don't exist to say i told you so -- [laughter] shannon: okay, critical meeting at camp david this weekend with family. we'll see if anything comes of tha

. >> mary katherine, your take? . >> yeah, i'm not sure i give them that much credit for the strategy, but here'sn th the thing. voters have already decided laght before this latest spate of videos of him mumbling and stumbling. and some of this is just undeniable. the voters back in february 70%s were saying it's 67%. he's too old to serve another termaito ser that includes a may of his own voters. and this nonsensf hivoterse senm media at large about cheap fakes is the new russian disinformation. it is this flexible term that they can use to say, oh, there's a grave threat u to american discourssee and the grave threat to american discourse, it turns out, is american talking front about what's happening in front of their eyeballs. and they will treyeballsy to yo. i got shut down. one of my posts on instagram got shut down for postinn gappee a poll about what happened at the g7 with biden that saiddo is it me ask you this? >> is it missing context or doe you care? and i still goant shut down. i don't think i can se

marie tidball. let's get more on today's developments in the election campaign. with 24 days to go before we head to the polls , and before we head to the polls, and our political correspondent katherinee bus. catherine, welcome to the show . there's a wall of to the show. there's a wall of red there. we can't quite there. you are, catherine. you're not on the bus, but you're in town, right? so the labour party, they want us to talk about education, education, education. it's all sort of feel very 1997. tell us more. >> yes. good afternoon. martin from york . they've let us off from york. they've let us off the bus for lunch. so but i was with sir keir starmer and bridget phillipson , the shadow bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary, this morning in nuneaton , where they morning in nuneaton, where they are talking about their plans for child care. a couple of things. they're talking about free breakfast clubs for primary school children. they're talking about 100,000 extra child care places that they say is going to come from, reusing 3000 classrooms that are either not being used or being underused and repurposing them into nurseries. they estimate that these and other m