mary ann, mary jo, and then there was a mary kathryn. my parents never call me mary. my name was kathy. but my best friend's name was kathy. she decided in the third grade that she would rename me. she was a voracious reader and had already read hundreds of and of her favorite books and she gave me the name and it stuck. how did your parents change it from kathy to heidi? >> well, they resisted. i do not know that they adapted all that well even when i went to college. it was a matter of what -- of whether it would be kathryn or something easier to work with and it just stuck. i live in a small community where nicknames are really common. i could talk about the kids i went eyes go with and tell you that most of them, to this day, they would still be known by their nicknames and not their christian names. you first leave north dakota for vacation, a trip, an internship? >> the first time was 1976. i came here to do an internship in congress and spent a semester here when i was a junior in college. >> when did you first think of a career in politics? lot about a think a

mary ann, mary jo, and then there was a mary kathryn. my parents never call me mary. my name was kathy. but my best friend's name was kathy. she decided in the third grade that she would rename me. she was a voracious reader and had already read hundreds of books and "heidi" was one of her favorite books and she gave me the name and it stuck. >> how did your parents change it from kathy to heidi? >> well, they resisted. i do not know that they adapted all that well even when i went to college. it was a matter of whether it would be kathryn or something easier to work with and it just stuck. i live in a small community where nicknames are really common. i could talk about the kids i went eyes go with and tell you that most of them, to this day, they would still be known by their nicknames and not their christian names. >> when did you first leave north dakota for vacation, a trip, an internship? >> the first time was 1976. i came here to do an internship in congress and spent a semester here when i was a junior in college. >> when did you first think of a career in pol

mary ann, mary jo, and then there was a mary kathryn. my parents never call me mary. my name was kathy. but my best friend's name was kathy. she decided in the third grade that she would rename me. she was a voracious reader and had already read hundreds of and "heidi" was one of her favorite books and she gave me the name and it stuck. >> how did your parents change it from kathy to heidi? >> well, they resisted. i do not know that they adapted all that well even when i went to college. it was a matter of whether it would be kathryn or something easier to work with and it just stuck. i live in a small community where nicknames are really common. i could talk about the kids i went to high school with and tell you that most of them, to this day, they would still be known by their nicknames and not their christian names. >> when did you first leave north dakota for vacation, a trip, an internship? >> the first time was 1976. i came here to do an internship in congress and spent a semester here when i was a junior in college. >> when did you first think of a career in po