i've also spent some time with senator mary landrieu, which many know, is a very strong advocate of the idea of adoption and legal guardianship

and so it actually does allow people like mary landrieu then keep that promise. not for not to sign my bill. >> complaining about the web site. we have a funding issue aren't going to buy it. where regetting the money for this? >> basically borrowing from our kids and grand kids. $2.5 trillion. i mean, taxes fees and penalties and other taxes are going to be about a trillion. there is 1.5 trillion-dollar deficit question mark right now. is that coming out of medicare? no this is totally understandable. 30 years ago healthcare law $13 trillion, greta. we can't afford it. >> i truly believe we have got to get medical care to everybody, but i am trying to figure out where the money is coming from. that's my concern about it we will see what happens to your bill. get more democratic support beside mary landrieu. >> i'm optimistic that we can pass this thing and on to promise that president obama made to million of americans. >> packers will win this weekend, right. >> absolutely. >> kathleen sebelius testifying she was clearly wrong to give it the green light. upton

even senate democrat mary landrieu appears to be putting a similar bill together. now, back with us to talk about all this, bob, dr. scott and ovki roy. can i just talk about, ovik, i think this was your story. the 93 million uninsured. in other words, let me get this right. for the viewers and myself. the same strictures that app applied, the same mandates that applied to individual are going to apply to the employer financed or backed insurance and they're not going to measure up. people are going to be out of luck in a year. >> it's not necessarily that they're going to be uninsured if this happens. right? their old plans will be canceled and replaced with new plans that might be more expensive, have higher deductibles, narrower networks and all the things we were talking about in the last segment. >> will those new plans come from obama care? will they push into obama care? will they come from private exchanges? will they come from medicaid? >> the bulk of them will be issued by the same types of private insurers who offered the plans before. some people will b

where he should have been was helping out people like mary landrieu or talking about what's moderatensible or useful about the law or talking about how he might keep some of that promise he made instead of going and talking about health insurance as a right and how the government was going to save you. martha: democratic scramble in a lot of states on an effort to try to change this thing and make their voters happier as it goes to 2014. chris, thank you so much. we'll see you later. >> yes, ma'am. martha: sign up for fox news first, foxnews.com/foxnewsfirst. you'll get chris' wisdom every morning. bill: oh, and he has a lot of that. thank you, chris. so what is your take at home? if you're watching at the office or at home or on your mobile device, what do you think about the president's claims? send us a tweet, @billhemmer. twitter lines are open, as we like to say. and let me tell you, put something out there, you respond. so we're watching for a reaction. martha: hearing all kinds of good stuff, so keep those coming to our twitter accounts, and in the meantime -- bill i'll bill t

. >> brand new pressure coming from senators like mary landrieu. remember the louisiana purchase which critics said bought her vote in support of the law. she welcome was booted out of office on that vote. that was controversial for all of them to vote for health care in a competitive district. >> states like louisiana, arkansas. these are states that department vote for barack obama in 2008 or 2012. they have their butts on the line. >> we saw the fiery town halls. thank you. we are now hearing similar krps about the law from house democrats. remember one man who helped write the health care law was warning of a train wreck over the plan back in april. >> i just see a huge train wreck coming down. we discussed it many times. i don't see any results yet. what can you do to help all these people around the country wondering what in the world do i do? >> thanks for that, senator. now you hear senators and house members complaining. mark thiesen was a speech writer under george w. bush and a fellow with the enterprise institute. now it's bipartisan. s

. >>> in kentucky, alison grimes beat out mcconnell and mary landrieu doubled the amount of her rifleagen brought in nearly $2 million more than any of her republican challengers. >>> and on the republican side, liz cheney is giving incumbent mike enzi a run for his money. she raised 100,000 more than her primary opponent. >>> governor chris christie is a staying consistent in opposing same-sex marriage. how he would react to one of his children coming out gay. >> if my children came to me and said that they were gay, i would grab them and hug them and tell them i loved them. just like i would do with any of my children who came to me with news that they wanted to give to me that they thought was important enough to open themselves up in that way. but what i would also tell them is that dad believes that marriage is between one man and one woman. >> the governor is currently appealing a court ruling that found a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. his opponent staays he's on the wrong side of history. >>> in an effort to shelf some book books, riley hunt ser is apologizing and

mary landrieu in louisiana, and also some in arkansas that have really come out and got along with joe manchin to say that we should delay this for a year. but the problem is that this is a huge revenue stream for the affordable care act for the 159 government agencies and bureaucracies that this quasi- wobble bring into effect. and therefore if you cut that out, you are really going to take away probably two of the three legs of this obamacare school. >> what you are stating in so far is this is you keep delaying key provisions and you start talking about what had a clear mandate and a clear rule out and it's nothing like the lotto is implemented. >> that's right, as a matter of fact, you even have a case out there that is challenging the supreme court's decision. because when they said that the individual mandate was part of taxing authority of the federal government of congress, you have violated the constitution and that the affordable care act emanated from the senate and the senate cannot have any kind of revenue-generating generating the legislation so we still have a legal chal

senator mary landrieu and mark prior announcing they are supporting senator shaheen's call for obamacareollment. asking the white house to extend that deadline until health care.gov is fixed. last year's super bowl champions are being paid to do exactly that. the baltimore ravens receiving 100 30,000 dollars from taxpayers to promote the health care law on tv and radio and the team's official website and social media. valued at just under 1.1 billion, but still a surprising deal. my next guest says that spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to fix health care.gov and whatever else is wrong with obamacare is like trying to overhaul what is still moving. it is time to press pause on the tech surge. joining us is congressman tim murphy and a cofounder of the caucus and a member of the energy commerce committee, which we will hear from secretary sebelius next wednesday. let's start, if we may. i just have to ask you here. do these problems manifest beyond the website? this is beginning to look like it may be a complete and utter disaster for the government and this administration and

mary landrieu in louisiana, kay hagen in north carolina.ill see a sea of change where republicans take over the senate. jon: doesn't get much more personal than your health care. people will translate what is happening now the way they vote. >> you're exactly right and they will vote their pocketbook when they go to the polls. right now people are suffering living paycheck to paycheck and there is no leadership in washington, d.c. jon: angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst. thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: we will be back to some of the top headlines in just a moment. today is the day to remember the chaos of the war of the worlds. 75 years after the infamous radio broadcasts. >> that is immense. strikes him head-on. [screaming] it is by the woods. jon: happening now, oh the power of radio. today marks 75 years since orson welles infamous "war of the worlds" radio broadcast. they deliver ad faux newscast detailing and tricked many americans that martians landed in a small new jersey town. listen to this. >> i just hand ad message

make somebody like a mary landrieu of louisiana or john manchin of west virginia or montana, make them vote on those things and they have to answer that every single week from now until the election. >> eric, does it bother you there's squabbling in the gop. it doesn't bother me much. people say what should the republican platform be going forward. >>> i think they have their platform. in an off-year election they can be against obama. they don't need anything concrete. they have obamacare but certainly have a leader to rally agains against. >> again, we talked about it. we know obamacare is not ready for primetime. the website glitches they're trying to ignore are proof of that. you have a year of obamacare in full force by the time the election comes around. which means, think about this for a second. what do you think of when you think of the dmv, can't stand it, runs poorly, always complaining. post office, the same thing. take that apply to your own health care, can't get a doctor, premiums going up, service stinks, the government's fault, obamacare's fault. take that republicans,

those red state democrats up for re-election next year, people like mary landrieu and mark pryor aredifference from where we have seen signs of disunity. >> what role could republican governors play in all of this? >> the one thing they can be able to do, look what's going on in washington. anti-washington, anti-congress message is also very popular. after all, congress's approval rating is 10% according to most polls. any governor, be it a republican or democrat can say look at the mess happening in washington, d.c. shame on them and they should get the house in order. the problem for republicans is that's not a good message for their party to have, particularly as more folks point the finger at republicans than democrats at this. in the virginia governor's race of 2013, neither candidate, wants anything to do with what's going on with the government shutdown. >> let's talk about the house rpz quickly. a number of them voiced support for clean cr. at last check it was 15. is that a number that's likely to grow? >> it has grown. so my colleague frank thorpe had 15 earlier in the day.

. >> we should talk about mary landrieu. >> mark pryor. >> we need to take montana and west virginia.publicans, conservatives, rhinos. stop worrying b about purifying us. take the senate first. >> congrats on the book. >> thank you. >> coming up -- >> earlier today the president sealed a deal on health care signing the bill into into law and forever changing the united states of america. to break it down it means higher taxes and lower quality medical care for you and your family. >> our predictions from years ago about obama care have come to pass. that's not all we were right b about. when we come back, we'll show you how right we were. and later the obama care operator who lost her job because she talked to me on my radio show. when we come back, we have good news. she gets the last laugh. and we always want to hear from you. join our companion site, hannitylive.foxnews.com. share your thoughts on the show and more or on twitter. dallas se my asthma's under control. i don't miss out... you sat out most of our game yesterday! asthma doesn't affect my job... you were out sick last we

he is trying to unseat mary landrieu. he does have a potential challenger on the right. representative jack kingston who voted no. he is the top fund-raiser among the candidates running for the open senate seat. that was in line with the recent moves to the right. his top rival is michelle nunn who reportedly raised that. pat roberts from kansas and they both voted no on the agreement to reopen the government. a couple of republicans may take a yes vote to elect the chances. steve daps could run to replace max bacchus and he has taken heat over the shut down at home and voted yes on the deal. shelly is heavily favored in the race to replace jay rockefeller. she voted yes last night in west virginia. a big benefit of federal spending. the most fascinating vote may have been mitch mcconnell. after spending most of the government shut down trying to dodge the spotlight, they wanted to lead on the bipartisan bill. the primary challenge facing the fund-raiser. this was not an easy thing for him. he raised a ton of money and democrats have been praising mcconnell's leadership.

mary landrieu of louisiana. are they down has ration these conservative democrats?ob casey in pennsylvania, they know this is the best we're going to get in these states. why are tea partiers, not tea partiers, it's diletantes. why are they demanding purity from republicans in a state that is a liberal state? it's madness. not thinking about winning elections. >> in the end republicans have to show unity when they fight a general election. last time you basically had again the division with the tea party and the moderates and so. you can see exactly the same bubble beginning to boil up again. you've got a male sarah palin, a much more formidable version of sarah palin in ted cruz. >> ted cruz? >> isn't he the new sarah palin? isn't he the new king of the kaep where she was once queen? >> i don't see the analogy but i love them. >> my point is, do you think he could be more electable to a wider cross-section just to win the nomination? if not anything else of republicans? >> we'll see. it's very possible. look, there will be arguments in a party of ideas. that is one

. >> our energy and money should be spend on taking out mary landrieu, taking west virginia seats back >> i agree. we'll get it. we're going to have a date soon where we'll be together. >> and i will be on "the view" tomorrow. i'm so happy. >> exciting. >> i can't wait to see elisabeth hasselbeck. >> jenny mccarthy. >> what happened to elisabeth? >> oh, stop. she's on fox & friends. >> we're going to talk about politics, obama care, the gop and more with dick cheney. first what you have selected as tonight's video of the day. you have a truck swerving violently on a busy bridge as the driver tries not to plunge over the side. vote for that on hannitylive.foxnews.com. on twitter @seanhasn't. ready to run your lines? okay, who helps you focus on your recovery? yo, yo, yo. aflac. wow. [ under his breath ] that was horrible. pays you cash when you're sick or hurt? [ japanese accent ] aflac. love it. cash when you're sick or hurt? [ undehis breath ] hate it. helps you focus on getting back to normal? [ as a southern belle ] aflac. [ as a cowboy ] aflac. [ sassily ] aflac. uh huh. [ under hi

poor mary landrieu and baggitch from alaska who try to be moderates in their states were forced to vote the way reid told them. to the democrats are put in a very awkward position going into 2014 being told, you can't vote your district. you have to vote who reid and obama tell you to. they've cast enough votes in the last week to lose the senate. and they're going to keep voting against allowing the national parks to open? against nih to fund? at some point the democrats in the senate are going to tell reid, they're tired of throwing away their careers for his tactics. >> do you see this as the democrats being in an awkward position? >> i think it's laughable. i think you can't have the republicans create a crisis and then beg the president to give them cover to crawl out from underneath that crisis. that's ridiculous. i mean, the idea that we are now in this world where we can argue a position like that, we can basically sit down with a straight face and say, no, i created this problem but it is your fault. that is ridiculous. >> this is about inside baseball. and it's nuts. because l

here is a portion of the debate with mary landrieu and bob corker. it is about half an hour. >> the senator from louisiana. >> thank you, madam president. i want to follow-up on the words of my distinguished colleague from hawaii and also comment on a few points that the senator from wyoming made in this important debate that is happening in washington today, a debate that is happening all over our country. i want to associate myself with the effort underway by senator collins from maine and senator -- from minnesota and others on both sides of the aisle that have been working throughout the evening, the night, early morning hours, talking, trying to find a way forward. forank both leaders blessing that effort and trying to find a way forward. this is a very dangerous situation. despite the fact that there are members on the other side of the capital in the republican party, not in the democratic party, that continue to doubt that there will be any ramifications from default -- i hate to say it, but they are going to be sorry they uttered those words

shouldn't mary landrieu represent the state of louisiana the best way she can. let her do that democratic congress is not monolithic. that's just not how they roll. >> part of big ten politics. >> first of all, good luck with the obama death panels. it was nice knowing you. >> enjoying the segment. >> secondly, i think there's two points to make here. one is jimmy's point, there are policy issues they want to consider. if you are going to have problems with enrollment, which happened. if that's going to carry into march, you shouldn't penalize someone who can't have access to insurance because they can have access to insurance. that's one. two, this is not unique. a lot of these same democrats wanted to delay individual mandate or talk about delaying enrollment during the government shutdown. however, they were never going to do it with the threat of shutdown upon them, certainly wasn't with the debt limit debate. it's not like this is bubbling to the surface. there was concern and anxiety before, we're just in a different context. >> is the right politics for t

like mark pryor in arkansas and mary landrieu in louisiana.rez the races we need to concentrate on. not on the incumbent republican seats. if you don't like what mitch mcconnell is doing in the senate, give him a majority. that's what the republicans need to concentrate on and the theme of my book. >> end it there. the book is called -- >> "never shut a liberal over three. especially a republican." >> there you go. the latest book. and we welcome you as always. we thank you for joining us for the insight and the best with the new book. >> thank you. >> the swing state of virginia is set to pick a new governor in three weeks. in one of the most watched races in the nation. with election day coming up fast, polls show republican ken cuccinelli slipping further behind democrat terry mcauliffe. the real clear politics average showing mcauliffe leading 46% to 39%. and today, the former democratic rundraiser brings old friend hillary clinton back in the fray. molly henneberg has the latest on what is going on there. molly? >> we haven't seen much pu

senators like mary landrieu and mark begich are going to have their hands full trying to explain whygoing up and people are losing their health insurance and these are continuing. >> this is an idea of a split between tea party and establish republicans. a surprising number says that if they lose this presidential election, they will formally split into a moderate party and the conservative party. >> i think it is pretty bad and brian is right about the five nominees that they produced in 2010 and 2012 who gave away these feeds and the challenge is that not that much has changed. they are the people that produce these nominees in colorado and some of the other states where there are six republicans who are facing the challenges and those are more likely to be the tea party thai people than the mainstream rational republicans like my brian and mitch mcconnell, and that is what the republican party has to face. that and that any democrat goes into a presidential election and you can be discreet with the numbers. any democrat entering the context of about 242 electoral votes that are pr

reaching its debt limit was the senate small business committee chaired by mary landrieu, democrat from louisiana. among those who testified a number of small business own earns the impact this is having on them. >> i have heard some people in washington describe the government shutdown as a pin prick to the economy. i didn't hear that today from any of you. would niff you like to comment and just elab brown-waite and underscore would any of you like to comment and just elaborate and underscore would any of you like to comment on just elaborate within it's a pin brick? >> i would be happy to address that. i have seen a number of studies, particularly the tourism industry is a major driver in 44 of the 50 states. and as an economic driver the u.s. travel association released a new analysis that shows that this pin prick is now costing this travel industry $152 million per day. that's growing very quickly. and it is affecting, 450,000 americans who have jobs in this industry. the national tourism association did a quick survey after it started and showed that there were effects in all but

here is a portion of the debate with democratic senator mary landrieu and tennessee republican bob corker. about one hour. >> senator from louisiana. >> thank you. i want to follow-up on the worst of my distinguished colleague from hawaii and also comment on the view points that the senator from wyoming made in this important debate that is happening in washington today and is having all over our country. i want to associate myself with by senatorunderway collins from maine and from minnesota and arkansas and others on both sides of the aisle that have been working throughout the evening, the night, early morning hours, talking and trying to find a way forward. effort in trying to find a way forward because as a center from hawaii said this is a very -- senator from hawaii said this a very dangerous situation. there are members on the other side of the capital in the republican party not in the continuec party that to doubt that there will be any ramifications from default, i hate to say it, they are going to be sorry they uttered those words. this is a very, very serious situation. the u

. >> kay hagan of north carolina, mary landrieu of louisiana.he shutdown headline has been completely pushed out of the newspapers because of the failure of the obama care launch. republicans now feel like they are on offense and the tea party is more fired up than they have been in weeks. >> that doesn't matter to democrats the tea party and the republicans. it's weather the drark senators think they are vulnerable and they will lose. >> and they do. >> four in the tent now and you say there is one in north carolina, right? that's vulnerable. landrieu in louisiana, she vulnerable or is she -- >> -- because she comes in from a red state, a state that mitt romney won that has a considerable republican leaning bent. conservative democrats down there too. she sunday pressure. she has been asked these questions over and over and over again. there are handful more. it is entirely possible that given this kind of pressure and a letter to the president from a liberal democrat from a beloved home state of new hampshire live free or die. he needs to do s

senator kay hagan, senator mary landrieu, the senator in alaska voted to protect this special privilege for congressmen. and they voted, while they supported the president in his action, giving a $12 million break to corporations by delaying the employer mandate. they want to put their hand in the pocket of the american families to the tune of $15 billion by not allowing them to have the same year delay that they're giving the companies. >> you know, i think the american people want a level playing field. and i think that whatever reasons there are for any decisions by the president, it doesn't look fair, when someone, and this is the congress, passes a law and gives themselves an exception. the same reason why the corporations and the unions got this waiver for a year is because they have lobbyists crawling all over this town and they have power. and the small businessmen, who can't afford a lobbyist who has a small business of less than 15 employees, he or she doesn't have access, doesn't have any special deals. that doesn't seem fair. >> look, in the short run the president is going

shaheen who has spearheaded this effort also signed the letter, dianne feinstein of california, mary landrieu of louisiana, mark pryor of arkansas and three of those four, wolf, running for re-election. what did they say in the letter? they didn't hold back. let's take a look at some quotes from the letter. it was about a page, a little bit longer. they wrote our constituents are frustrated and we fear that the longer the website is not functional, opportunities for people to log on and enroll will be lost. then later, individuals should not be penalized for lack of coverage if they're unable to purchase health insurance due to technical problems. wolf, that's the argument we keep hearing on capitol hill coming from democrats to a democratic administration. so we'll see what happens next week when the senators return to town. they're not even in town right now. i'm waiting for health and human services to respond to this letter. they should get back to me later today. >> we'll see what the house says, too. it's not pre day you get ten democratic senators writing the secretary of health and hu

look at incumbent louisiana senator mary landrieu, is even calling her opponent bill cassidy shutdown cassidy. then there's arkansas's mark prior. he's begun running this ad against republican congressman tom cotton. >> the government shutdown cost america $24 billion. cotton and a small group of reckless congressmen took our country to the brink of default. >> these dueling arguments are the ones we're probably going to hear for the next year. we got a preview at last night's virginia gubernatorial debate. the last debate before that election in november. >> just this week, he refused to say whether he supported reopening the government. >> i was the first to fight obama care, but my opponent didn't think it went far enough. look how badly they're doing with the health care exchanges. now he insists that obama care has to be expanded in virginia. why would we expand failure? >> here's the thing. this week has been a painful one for democrats. now forced into the role of locking the line between criticizing and defending the rollout of the president's signature domestic achievement. >

most likely going to determine control of the senate and that would be mark begich in alaska, mary landrieusiana, kay hagen in north carolina, the open republican seat in saxby chambliss' seat in georgia and mitch mcconnell, all six of those seats are in states that romney carried. so to the extent there's a backlash against the republican party, and there certainly is, it would probably be less in some of those states than in most others. and so but are they helping themselves? oh, heck no. of course they haven't. >> how much does gerrymandering play into the fact the house probably won't flip? >> there are a lot of reasons and gerrymandering is one because republicans for the first time in decades had their hand on the pen drawing the maps. but also a population sorting. democrats tend to live in urban areas and college towns concentrated. and republicans are more spread out. and that helps -- that works in there as well. >> this weekend we saw senator ted cruz out. we had a rock star reception in texas. also hillary clinton out. does ted cruz have a shot at getting enough support to actu

i wouldn't be surprised if mary landrieu, senator landrieu was in that too.e were the head-state senators up for reelection in mitt romney states that i thought were going to delay the whole individual mandate to begin with. grace, i want to bring you in on this. first of all, are the senators right? and second of all, the white house acting correctly to extend this? that includes the tax penalty, which would also be extended. >> you know, larry, remember last summer when the administration decided to delay the employer mandate because the employers couldn't comply. and the house-passed legislation said let's delay the individual too and the president said he would veto that legislation because it was so important to this law. and now because of this disaster, it is not a glitch. this is a disastrous roll-out of this health plan, then they themselves are saying that they may have to delay the individual mandate because people can't enroll. you can't force people to pay a penalty when they can't get this product. >> right. >> and applying on paper, every one o

there is going to be a referendum, folks running the red states like mary landrieu, mark prior, kay hagan, they're going to have their hands full trying to explain why they voted for this. are all very astute politicians, they got themselves elected. numbers,ok at the poll these are people who do not think obamacare was the best idea. they would prefer to fix it and to repeal it. there are many people who think obamacare was a good idea -- it did not go far enough toward single-payer. they're going to say it is a good program and we need to give it time to work. the medicare prescription drug program was passed, a lot of democrats do not like it until they discover that senior -- knowing one of the things is that people are going to find that it is more like what the democrats told him it would be. they will not be screaming for were killed. it does not mean there will be things we need to fix. host: steve mcmahon and brian walsh for our political roundtab le. sean, pennsylvania, democrats. questions.ave two i want to know what the republicans will do when hillary clinton runs? guest: the

there is going to be a referendum, folks running the red states like mary landrieu, mark prior, kay hagan, they're going to have their hands full trying to explain why they voted for this. guest: they are all very astute politicians, they got themselves elected. if you look at the poll numbers, these are people who do not think obamacare was the best idea. they would prefer to fix it and to repeal it. there are many people who think obamacare was a good idea -- it did not go far enough toward single-payer. they're going to say it is a good program and we need to give it time to work. the medicare prescription drug program was passed, a lot of democrats do not like it until they discover that senior citizens -- knowing one of the things is that people are going to find that it is more like what the democrats told him it would be. they will not be screaming for were killed. it does not mean there will be things we need to fix. host: steve mcmahon and brian walsh for our political roundtab le. sean, pennsylvania, democrats. caller: i have two questions. i want to know what the republicans wi

tough vote for red state democrats, especially those who are up in re-election battles next year, mary landrieug to be a campaign commercial. there are risks on both sides here, jon, and the stakes are, obviously, increasing every day. jon: you can almost hear the campaign commercial language right now for next year. >> indeed. jon: all right. bob cusack, thanks. jenna: a fox news alert, at least eight people have been killed, 14 ohs injured in -- others injured in a fiery church bus accident in tennessee. investigators say the bus blew a tire then hit an suv and a tractor-trailer. emergency officials described the crash as, quote: horrific. b. >> this is probably the worst we've seen here, it's probably the worst i've seen in my career as well, and i've worked several, several counties in my career past 17 years. jenna: jonathan serrie's live from our atlanta bureau with more on what happened here. jonathan? >> reporter: hi, jenna. well, right now the investigation's focusing on one of those tires on the church bus at this early phase. investigators aren't ready to call it a blowout but say th

even mary landrieu from louisiana, she is up for re-election in 2014. she emphatically opposed. we can't choose between funding something like contractors at lockheed martin which the big company or funding the national institutes of health. i think that is difficult argument to make but we'll see how it plays out over the next few days. jon: the democrats and you know, president obama has said that republicans are being held hostage by one wing of the minority party but it is bigger than that, isn't it? >> i think it is bigger. i think that john boehner, he's always relied on democratic votes to get a deal. each of those three deals i mentioned where president obama compromised, john boehner compromised, he relied on democratic votes to pass the bills. the issue he doesn't want to be completely humiliated and not get anything whatsoever in exchange for funding the government and raising the debt limit. they negotiated in the past. what's changed? harry reid and chuck schumer were asked the question yesterday. they said, well the president won re-election. the problem is the hou

. >> there's a moment in the 1995, when my senator in louisiana, mary landrieu, a louisiana democrat,of the senate, an apology to the american people and to african-americans in particular for having never passed anti-lynching legislation, right? so that southern veto that we were talking about was often used by southern democrats to keep the anti-lynching legislation from occurring. and in 2005, just two months before katrina, a louisiana democrat introduces this apology that the senate then takes up. i felt such hope at that moment, alan, and of course, right after that, two months after that katrina happens, the sort of race story of katrina emerges. and yet just a few years after that, the election of president obama. i have to say, i got a little racially giddy about potentially where we were going. and then the past seven years have been difficult and culminating in this shutdown, which now feels like this thing from the 1930s. >> right. but i think that the shutdown, one of the reasons that the shutdown blows up the conservative narrative in a lot of ways and why you see this e