her name was mary lyons. some other time in first baptist church, in my aunt's church, a woman stood up with a similar testimony. said pray me i'm waiting for a kidney. >> they had a tremendous impact on you. >> they had a tremendous impact. our ability to remember this in the face of tragedy when we were with the organ procurement officer who said would you please consider donating your brother's organs. he was an athlete. but he had a bullet lodged in his brain. >> it's a compelling story. alyssa, thank you so much for telling us that story and we'll continue our talk about organ doe nation right after this. >>> welcome back, we're talking about organ donation. dr. clive callender. you have said that d.c. has the most successful conversion rate in the country. explain that. >> in the district of columbia which has the highest incidence by the way, we also have the most successful organ donor conversion of the minority population, especially african-americans and some of this related is what the washington r