mary magdalene by the artist 1533 in venice. that i believe is described in your book as the portrait in which mary wipes the feet of jesus -- wipes the body of jesus or was it the feet at the tomb? was it when he was living or dead? >> when he was alive, wiped the feet of jesus. >> she anointed him. tell us about that? >> there are two scene in the gospels in which this physical contact with jesus is described. one is with a sinful woman, not mary, who wipes jesus' feet with her hair. the other is mary magdalene in my reading in which she totally covers jesus with ointment starting with his head. the other disciples get upset with what she has done, and jesus tells them that she has done a beautiful thing for me. she acted with what she had. she has anointed my body beforehand for burial. what that is telling us is that as a result of this anointing, jesus came to the resolution at this pivotal moment in his life that the way in which god was going to be revealed in the world was going to have to include his own death. what mary

mary magdalene by the artist 1533 in venice. that i believe is described in your book as the portrait in which mary wipes the feet of jesus -- wipes the body of jesus or was it the feet at the tomb? was it when he was living or dead? >> when he was alive, wiped the feet of jesus. >> she anointed him. tell us about that? >> there are two scene in the gospels in which this physical contact with jesus is described. one is with a sinful woman, not mary, who wipes jesus' feet with her hair. the other is mary magdalenen my reading in which she totally covers jesus with ointment starting with his head. the other disciples get upset with what she has done, and jesus tells them that she has done a beautiful thing for me. she acted with what she had. she has anointed my body beforehand for burial. what that is telling us is that as a result of this anointing, jesus came to the resolution at this pivotal moment in his life that the way in which god was going to be revealed in the world was going to have to include his own death. what mary m

>> jesus was baptized in the salt lake temple on -- i think it was april 2010 and sealed to mary magdalennity. >> that's good. he is in good shape then. but you were a former mormon now. didn't the mormons think that jesus came back to america any way? >> i can't answer that, because i don't know why the submitter put that particular entry in. it could have been a prank entry. the name was misspelled. >> who misspells jesus christ? >> well he was put in as jesus christian. but i think that we have to allow for the fact that there are some mormons who will put in inappropriate entries. that may have be a mickey mouse type entry as far as it going in for a joke but the other names, the ones that have been recently discovered, the names of the ann frank, and ellie rozzell and two of his family members, these were not pranks and neither was the daniel pearl entry. >> and was mickey mouse actually baptized? >> no, mickey mouse's entry showed up in 2006. it was cleared for baptism. but it was discovered when the story got out, and the entries were removed. >> so that's the thing i don't underst

. >> gretchen: your name, mary, mary, because mary, mother of jesus and mary magdalene. >> that's wherehackles." >> gretchen: great! ♪ in the corners of my mind i just can't seem to find the reason to believe that i can't pray free ♪ ♪ just me ♪ i have been there for so long ♪ ♪ as i lift my hands i understand that i should praise you through my circumstance ♪ ♪ the shackles off my feet so i can dance ♪ ♪ i just want to praise you ♪ i just want to praise you ♪ broke the chains now i can lift my hands ♪ ♪ and i'm going to praise you ♪ i'm going to praise you ♪ everything that could go wrong all went wrong at one time ♪ ♪ so much pressure fell on me ♪ i thought i was gonna lose my mind ♪ ♪ thought i know you want to see if i'm gonna hold on through these trials ♪ ♪ but i need to you lift this low 'cause i can't take this no more ♪ ♪ take the shackles off my feet so i can dance ♪ ♪ i just want to praise you ♪ i just want to praise you ♪ you broke the chains now i can lift my hands ♪ ♪ and i'm gonna praise you ♪ i'm gonna praise you ♪ then through the fire and the rain ♪ ♪ found in every so