mary mccord, weci appe your being with us. listening to amna lk about the makeup of the people who showed up in washington today, who showed up at the capitol. you're somebody who has studiedt some oese extremist groups, incling prim prime white supremd others. what do you make of who these people arewhat movated them to come do what they were doing today? >> well, it's not surprising to see these groups showing up.ng this is somete have seen in the making for some time now, and we have a combination of extremists, far right extremists including conspiracy theorists who buy into dekebfalse claims from election fraud to q anon theories about varus elected officials, democrat and republican, but we also have unlawful criminal street gangs and milm itias frofferent states. now, d.c., of course, is not an open carry jurisdiction and, in fact, doesn't even allow concealed carry unless you have a concealed carry permit from d.c. they don't reognize permits from other jurisdictions, but that doesn't mean that people haven't been conc

i'm joined now by mary mccord, legal director at the institute for constitutional advocacy and protectioneast 15,000 national members of the national guard here in our capital. it's been an extraordinary week, hasn't it? it it's been an extraordinary week, hasn't it? . , , it's been an extraordinary week, hasn't it?_ and - it's been an extraordinary week, hasn't it?_ and do i it's been an extraordinary week, i hasn't it?_ and do you hasn't it? it has been. and do you think that justice _ hasn't it? it has been. and do you think that justice has _ hasn't it? it has been. and do you think that justice has been - hasn't it? it has been. and do you think thatjustice has been served | think thatjustice has been served by the impeachment of the president, given that the trial will not happen until he's out of office? i given that the trial will not happen until he's out of office?— until he's out of office? i think accountability _ until he's out of office? i think accountability is _ until he's out of office? i think accountability is very, - until he's out of office? i think accountability is

and finally, mary mccord. mary is currently a visiting professor of law and a legal director for the institute of constitutional advocacy and protection at the prestigious georgetown law school. mary was formerly the acting assistant attorney general for national security at the department of justice. to frame our discussion, i want to just draw your attention to the definition of domestic terrorism. the fbi website defines domestic terrorism as violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. it would seem that the acts of violence that took place at the u.s. capitol on january 6 check almost every one of those boxes. the extent of what happened on january 6, especially compared with what many of us thought was the nature of the threat, even a few months ago, has caused a broad reassessment by many in the counterterrorism community about what it's going

routes were closing and have been turned to acts of mass violence against american citizens. >> mary mccord well, i thnk if we're talking specifically about the approach to domestic extremism, i think we will see very early on, you know, in fact we heard some of it in the speech today, the inaugural speech, we will hear very early on a commitment to combating domestic extremism. we already know the fbi has president resources towards this, as indicated earlier, director rae has been clear that the white supremacist threat is the greatest threat of terrorism in the homeland right now. and so i think the fbi has put those resources toward it. but what we vbt heard for the last four years is a leadership above that, you know, really talking about the seriousness and significants of this threat. that is really going to change. i don't think we're going to see new types of intelligence or anything. we're talking about domestic threats here. they have connections overseas, international connections, the white power movement doesn't end at the borders of the united states. but we're really talking