and that's what makes me delighted, honored to tell you now that we're being joined by mary mccord. >ant attorney general for doj, a fellow the george washington program on extremism. thank you so much for joining us tonight. it is an honor to have you here. >> thank you. nice to be here, rachel. >> so, i feel like part of what is difficult as -- in reporting on and just trying to be a well informed system on national security matters, particularly when they intersect with intelligence, it's hard to check things that we hear about are from the intelligence community. it's really hard to get second sources on stuff. it's really hard to get official verification with a lot of things because it's by necessity a pretty opaque world. given that, what can you tell us about what odni is doing right now? they say they are doing a chassfication review and also a damage assessment about these documents that were taken from the former president. can you shed any light for us on what those terms mean and what it means they are really doing? >> sure. and i thits important to focus on this. i am gl

mary mccord, former justice department acting attorney general for a national security. your experience and clarity of expression, it's very invaluable to have you here, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> again, just to summarize theere. her reporting from nbc news, the office of the director of national intelligence is doing both that damage assessment, in terms of what damage could potentially have been caused here. that is something that was called for by the chairman and the vice chairman, the democrat and republican who are the head of that senate intelligence committee. that damage assessment, but also the classification review, which has mary mccord said there could very much impact what charges, if any, or ultimately brought against whoever is deemed to be responsible for the mishandling of this serious national security implicating, highly classified material. more ahead here tonight, stay with us. ic softener! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft, wrinkles don't want to stick around. make mornings smoother with downy

you heard me talk to mary mccord earlier in the program.rosecuted. had she taken them home, she would have been prosecuted. but it is different for a former president. >> it is different. george, i would have prosecuted you if you brought those home. let there be no doubt. it is different for a former president, and it's different, and i used to say in our office when we would have, not a president, when we investigated a sitting governor when i was u.s. attorney, and what i would say to my prosecutors was, this has to be clear so that even anyone in the state of new jersey, no matter your level of education, no matter where you work, no matter your party can hear these facts and say, you know what, that's wrong, and whoever did that needs to be prosecuted. so that the bar for doj here is, you have to articulate a case as to why i think this threatened national security. should they get the documents back? absolutely. and whatever they needed to do to get those documents back, they should have done, but here's the other problem you're talki

joining us now is former acting assistant attorney general for national security mary mccord. mary, thank you so much for being here to talk about this. can you tell us a little bit about what this damage assessment is going to be looking for and how significant this is? >> sure. so the damage assessment will involve all of the intelligence agencies reviewing what has been retrieved from mar-a-lago to determine how sensitive are these documents, what are these about, how dangerous would it be to national security if they fell in the hands of those who are not authorized to have them. they will also be looking at do we have confidential human sources who are in danger right now? do we have intelligence collection methods that are in danger because they may be revealed to those foreign adversaries and others who should not know about them, which could mean we would into he had to change some of our intelligence collection practices. wholly apart from the criminal investigation the national security implications of what was found at mar-a-lago are very significant. >> we saw this

there were questions, there was an interview with mary mccord who pointed out that often intelligence agencies are reluctant to let the justice department bring criminal charges that would require them to declassify some of this material in order to present it in court. there is that. but i think the more important one is the question that carol was raising, does the fbi have evidence for what trump's motive was in retaining those 11 boxes of documents as opposed to the 15 he did return. was there something he was planning to do with them? was he going to share them with anybody. that goes to the level of criminal intent here. and right now, we don't have the answer to those questions. and it may not be anything other than the kind of reckless contempt that trump has for the norms that was -- that explains all of this. and if they don't have that criminal motivation to do something with the documents, i think the more likely route here is -- the justice department isn't going to drop it, there is a misdemeanor charge that could be brought. that is what they did with david petraeus, wh

thomas brings us the latest on the investigation with analysis from dan abrams, former prosecutor mary mccordief. >> like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. >> president biden forgives student loan debt. >> what you're saying here is, go ahead, take out loans, don't worry about it. we'l

. >> david, i want your thoughts about -- i talked to mary mccord about this a bit yesterday, about theppetite to have to do what they have to do right now, to deal with not just a threat among us but a national security risk and someone who now has a pattern, a proven track record, of inciting domestic violence. >> look, it makes it harder for them to do their job. fbi agents, department of justice prosecutors, my former colleagues, we're all human. we have families. these threats impact them. i had threats against me when i was overseeing the clinton investigation, but it had not one whit of impact on the work we did on the investigative findings, on the legal analysis or reasoning or judgments we came to, because we're professionals. they're professionals. they're going to do their job. but it makes it harder. it makes it harder for their families, and so i'm confident that merrick garland and chris wray are ensuring that additional security measures are provided to agents and prosecutors to enable them to do their jobs without having to be buffeted by all this white noise to the ext

mary mccord, pete strzok, thank you so much for starting us off today. >> thank you. >>> when we comes midterms, now just ten weeks away, and why the democrats, at least in part, have the twice-impeached ex-president to thank for some of it. >>> plus the republican nominee for governor was already under intense scrutiny for ties to white national social media platforms. now, photos of him as a confederate soldier have emerged. of course they have. his democratic opponent, josh shapiro, will be our guest. >>> and ongoing shelling in ukraine. what the international community is doing to head off nuclear catastrophe. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. "deadline ws after a icquk break. research shows that people remember ads with young people having a good time. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a pool party. look what i brought! liberty mutual! they customize your home insurance... so you only pay for what you need! ♪young people having a good time with insurance.♪ ♪young people.♪ ♪good times.♪ ♪insurance!♪ only pay for

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