something brief right now, i was shown, and very early, drawings of a project on the site, by bill and mary murphy. this could have been 10 years ago. this has of all to ever since then, to the eastern neighborhoods projects and the process and through the economy. as well as what else has been happening in the immediate neighborhood, including one of david baker's projects. that is through the area, actually. the public has known about this for a very long time. the neighborhood association has known about this for a very long time. i actually look forward to seeing the more current iterations and details as they come forward. >> commissioner? >> this is much like a project we had earlier, and this was probably 2003 or 2004, and these held up during the eastern neighborhood situation. and so, this is a pleasant surprise that we finally see them coming forward, and i see some of the rendering sirrah, and from what i see these look very good. this is not what we're here for. we will have comments on the environmental draft and the impact report, and will be able to send in the comments, and we will

i'd like to thank mary mcdonagh murphy, who joined us from new york via skype, and john -- john is actually a descendant of the first chief justice of the u.s. supreme court. paulette frankl, "lust for justice," tony serra, and sheldon siegal. so before we take a break, i do have a surprise. a few years ago, i guess six or seven years ago, i met an amazing artist. i was visiting his home. and he had created this wonderful sculpture. i immediately recognized it as being clarence. it turned out that he had created a number of just amazing sculptures of trial lawyers. and he went on to do one of clara fults, the first woman attorney in california and became the leader of the public defender movement. and just by happenstance, he called me and had this idea of encapsulating one of the greatest trial attorneys of our times. so, bill? is he here? this is not a magistrate. [laughing] -- not a magic trick. >> i've never met tony serra, so i have to make use of the internet to get a sense of who he was and the imagery. what clearly came over was his passion for justice. and in some cases almost a ra