when you are at the bus stop, say what about mary norton. let get the word out about mary teresa norton. her story is a fantastic story. mary norton did not go to college, unlike nina and ruth hanna mccormick. she go to new york and becomes a secretary and marries. she has a son around 1909-ish. he dies at one week. she's grief-stricken and the way she responds to her grief over this lost child is to begin to work at a day nursery in jersey city. and she's really good at it and she becomes secretary at the day nursery and then the president at the day nursery and a major fundraiser for the day nursery. as the fundraiser she gets to know everybody in jersey city and the surrounding county and one of those people is the democratic political boss and mayor of jersey city, frank hague. when the 19th amendment was ratified. new jersey had not enfranchised women. frank hague goes to mary norton and says i want you to organize women for the democratic party and she said i wasn't a sufficie suffragist and i don't know about politics. he says no wome

mary norton did not go to college unlike nina and ruth. she's from a working class family in jersey city. she goes to new york. she becomes a secretary. eventually marries. has a son around 1909ish let's say. he dies at one week. she's grief stricken and the way that she responds to her grief over this lost child is to begin to work at a day nursery in jersey city and she's really good at it and she becomes the secretary and then she becomes the president of the day nursery and she becomes the major fund raiser for the day nursery and as the fund raiser she gets to know pretty much everybody in jersey city and the surrounding county and one of those people is the democratic political boss and mayor of jersey city, frank hague. when the 19th amendment was ratified, new jersey was also one of those states that had not enfranchised women. frank hague goes to mary norton and says i want you to organize women for the democratic party and she said, i wasn't a sufferagist, i don't know anything about politics. he said no women do. you just go get

mary norton did not go to college unlike nina and ruth. she's from a working class even son around 1909 issue, he dies at one week. she's grief stricken and the way that she respond to her grief over this lost child is to began to work at a day nursery in jersey city, and she's really good at it. she becomes a secretary of the day nursery, then she becomes the president and a major fundraiser for the day nursery. and she begins to know everybody around the county. one of though people is the democratic political boss and major of jersey city, frank hait. when the 19th century of ratified, new jersey was also one of the states that didn't ratify women. frank go goes and said i want you to organize women. she says i'm not in politics. she goes and organize women in the 1920s and thereafter and she's really good at it. so good at it that hague puts her up for u.s. congress in 1924, an election in 1924. and she wins, she goes to congress, runs again the next time, land slide victory. she gets over 80% of the vote and she stayings in the u.s. c

people like john demos, mary beth norton, and i could spend the next hour talking about the different works. one clear factor seems to be what is now known as mass conversion disorder which traditionally would have been known as mass hysteria which is a term that is out of fashion for a number of reasons, not the least of which that it's gendered. mass conversion disorder is controversial, hard to diagnose even today. it's hard to play psychiatrist, which i'm not, looking at people 300 years ago, right? but here's the thing. you understand what it is, your mind is so stressed and in so much turmoil that your mind unbeknownst to your body literally converts that stress into physical symptoms. all right? we are not talking about people acting out. we are not talking about people faking their symptoms. we are talking about people who are terrified because they don't understand why their bodies are doing what they are doing. why they are shrieking, why they are wailing, why they are going deaf, dumb, blind. and not knowing unfortunately makes this worse. because it makes you more worried,

after that, if mary beth norton brings this up. after that the girls didn't do physical descriptions. they said how did you know it was goody martin. she told me her name and she was from. sort of like what? the specter who was afflicting you identifies themselves. this is how you know. i'm going to hold you up and give you my wallet. by the way my name is. all the things of a stupid criminal who leave their check deposit slip when they rob a bank. who does that? essentially they made out these witches really worked against their own self-interest. i think that's another reason why they thought they could get them to confess. very easy to get these people to do that. you want to ask another question. come on up. >> i wanted to ask partly was there anything to learn from the paper the ink, the things that were not the handwriting. and i was wondering if you could debunk something i heard. some popular. >> for starters we didn't look at paper. there was lots of paper with -- he'll follow up that question. we looked at the paper but d