get those payroll point, mary smith, please tell me actually those 2 and those up with this money to go for academic dish. and even though it gives nice, nice, nice to this music and go right at. don't come over the kitchen at the pick and let me just keep a book to city tasks don't nipple by yell. so basically at the we use a fluid metric was in, you get away from actually civilization from the ground, the meat caring, can i? so the form of following the list of all street, she left vienna in fitness of her life. why left australia? i left a in summer 2020 i. it was desperate to the one in but also a destructive presentation to work. and i had been living on 50 euro as a week for about a year in the house because i had very little income. i think it was the fact that i had searched as an independent minister. emmett, a show pod is a renown french political analyst. professor with the military academy and all 3 of academic works on geo politics, including the explain book chronicle of the clash of civilizations. the way she assesses current developments in europe. this book was the b

i was privileged in the cages and i can actually get those payroll for mary smith. he's telling me actually those to those up with this money to go for it because i need my dish. and even though it gives me that she needs to be snows and go right at, don't come over the kitchen at the pick and i may just keep a book item 672 near by. yeah. so basically i don't use this to touch because in you get away from actually civilization from the ground, the meat caring can i? so the form of our new list as austria, she left vienna in santa for her life. why left australia? i left a in summer 2020 i it was desperate from bonham but also a dyslexia to prove addition to work. and i had been living on 50 euro as a week for about a year in the house because i had very little income. i think it was the fact that i had searched as an independent minister. emmett, a show pod is a renown french political analyst professor with the military academy and all 3 of academic works on g at politics, including the claim book, a chronicle of the clash of civilizations, the when she assesses c

thread line that is an important component but different from the things we're seeing from jack smith. >> mary, i'll give you the last word and get you on the record for something andrew wiseman flagged for all of us yesterday, which is this background check process under way that the department of justice has entered a protective order. but the first is why does this matter? this matters because trump didn't commit just any crime. trump committed the crime of endangering u.s. national security by the willful retention of national defense materials. he committed unrelated crime to the questions that were being asked about him in 2017. he allegedly committed crimes that go to the heart of what the government worried he was as early as 2017, and that was as pete said a counter intelligence nightmare. >> yeah, and you know if you just look at the language of people like bill barr who said, you know, this is really serious, i think he said he's toast if these allegations are true, but the reason somebody like bill barr thinks it's so serious is because bill barr has sat in those meetings in the si

smith also had a legal wife. he was probably pregnant at the same time that marie it was pregnant they were all in the same householdow whether or not this mr. smith is a call because there's a lot of a lot of allies is in this book. so mr. smith may describe his own narrative who bore such a strong physical resemblance to hersb own husband, to allen's father. she was so upset ellen was mistaken for a legitimate child of the family. at the soonest opportunity she gave away ellen kraft as a wedding gift to her own 18-year-old daughter when this 18-year-old daughter was going to get married. so to be at the end of this journey, upstairs in the space and opening up this book to find this paper by which this action was made possible to see annual beautiful hand-to-hand writing was just gorgeous. you see in this beautiful hand out of the love that i bear for my daughter allies that i am giving her this property. i'm not just giving her this property. but i am giving her this property, alan, and all of her increase. which meant that for generations upon generations ellen kraft's children and their children, and their chil

the problems that we're facing is unfortunately, attorney general, mary garland did not hand his case over to special counsel jack smith much earlier . and he ate up 2 years of time by not doing that. and so what that means is we're now basically facing staring down the gun of 2024 in an election year. and it becomes a point in time when they will probably be a judge to judge who is assigned to the case, who is basically more likely to be one of the lines of donald trump that she's proven. otherwise, judge can, who's like linda rod team? i've tried to basically say we cannot go forward with a trial in this case because of the fact that he is running for president and he has all these and get engagements and commitments and everything going. what? that's the real scary part is really what we after would we actually get to a trial before the election and then he would not be convicted because he would be pending a trial. and if he were to, when god for bid, that would be the end of everything. everything meeting he would just tossed out as um, he wants to do the content, you know, anything relating to the trials against

he has not talked to mary garland, he has certainly not talked to jack smith. jack smith has a long reputation in washington dc as an independent person who is not a partisan political person. he is not a political appointee in any way. he is indeed a special council and he is doing his job of examining the facts and breeding charges as he sees fit. married, garland has not told jack smith what to do. uh, and, you know, in point of that this case is not great for president biden. in all of the polling a match up against president biden versus president trump. that is actually the best possibility for president bible because so many people have such strong feelings against president trump. should it be another republican that is actually a stronger line up for the republicans, but at so the president biden has really no interest in this except for the fact that president trump took documents, refused to hand them back over. it was asked many, many times to turn them over. he was, you have many opportunities to return the material before we got to a place where h

smith. >> there was an urgency here that sources said this case had to be brought down to send a signal this will not be tolerated. >> let's bring in mary bruce. you and i were on the air last week when the indictment was revealed, the president saying i will have no comments. the first lady overnight, jill biden making news on this. >> the president is going out of his way not to comment on this. he ignored reporters questions that biden is trying to claim this is politically motivated and the president wants to protect the independence of the justice department, but the first lady is commenting, saying she thinks it is shocking republicans don't seem to care about the indictment. it is showing trump supporters are not wavering. how long can biden and his campaign stay silent and wait to go on the attack? ask thank you. we are going to move to other news this tuesday evening. a u.s. military helicopter incident injuring 22 service members. the pentagon confirming no enemy fire was reported. it comes after recent questions >> the military says it is investigating a helicopter mishap that left service members injured in northeastern syri

. >> researchers believe that mary and bess were like the people of the northern neck. >> we're not sure where they came from, but thomas smithit's sarah, my seven times great grandmother works changes the trajectory of her children and all her descendants who followed. >> there was a law back in 1705 that declared that all children that are enslaved or free, their condition would be based on whatever their mother was. >> remember, sarah and bess arrived free people. >> so sarah has a raw suit that's filed saying we're free. >> this is the actual lawsuit filed by sarah suing for her freedom and for the freedom of her descendants, and that deposition was from a witness who saw mary and bess arrive decades earlier. >> so in 1791 the court appear the can sarah and her chirp and grand chirp and all of those relatives who were descendants of mary and bess are going to be free. >> that my ancestors filed and sued for their freedom, it is remarkable. >> we're not done. >> we're not done. >> we're not done. okay. we're not done. let me get a kleenex, doctor. >> i told you have-to-have a box there. >> not all of sarah's family was fre

the, quote, weaponization of the doj, mary katherine, as many conservatives are saying, or do we have a former president lashing out an the special come, jack smitharged him and suddenly you're not the party of law and order? >> i think you can have a little bit of both. i think there's deep concern about the politicization of the doj and their incentives to go after certain people and to use energy for certain things and not other things. those are fair. but when the president, according to this indictment tht to be true and, of course, he has to level his defense -- he has also put himself in deep water. howard: both things can be true. >> absolutely right. howard: and the former president has made clear he is going to fight this very hard or and has personalized it, which is one of his trademark signatures. let me get a break. when we come back, the media fallout over brett bay -- bret baier's interview with donald te trump. to ♪ ♪ freedom for kids. hungry? thank you, chef. control for parents. nice. one bank for both. chase. make more of what's yours. (tap, tap) listen, your deodorant just has to work. i use secret aluminum free. just swipe a

researchers believed that mary and best where actually -- like these people of the northern virginia, called the northern neck. >> we're not sure where they came from. but thomas smithst children. and that was sarah. >> and then sara, my seven times great grandmother who changes the trajectory of her children in all of her descend into followed. >> there was a law back in 1705, that declared that all children that are enslaved or free, their condition would be based on whatever their mother was. >> remember, sara and best arrived free people. >> so sarah has a lawsuit that is filed, saying that we are free. >> this is the actual lawsuit filed by sarah. suing for her freedom, and for the freedom of her descendants. and that deposition? it was from a witness who saw mary and best arrive decades earlier. >> so in 1791, the court agreed with sara and her children and grandchildren and all of those relatives who were descendants of mary and bess. are gonna be free. >> that my ancestors, filed and sued for their freedom? it is remarkable. >> we are not done! >> we're not done. we are not done. okay. we are not done. let me get a kleenex doctor. i >> told you! have the buc

researchers believe that mary and bess were actually matabonia like these people of virginia called the northern neck. >> we're not sure where they came from, but thomas smithhildren and that was sarah. >> and it's sarah, my seven-times great grandmother, who changes the trajectory of her children and all of her descendants who followed. >> there was a law back in 1705 that declared that all children that are enslaved or free, their condition would be based on whatever their mother was. >> remember, sarah and bess arrived free people. >> so sarah has a lawsuit that's filed saying, we're free. >> this is the actual lawsuit filed by sarah, suing for her freedom and for the freedom of her descendants. and that deposition, it was from a witness who saw mary and bess arrive decades earlier. >> so in 1791, the court agreed with sarah and her children and grandchildren and all of those relatives who were descendants of mary and bess are going to be free. >> that my ancestors filed and s sued for their freedom, it is remarkable. >> we're not done. >> we're not done. we're not done. okay. we're not done. let me get a kleenex, doctor -- >> i told you, have a box ther

tracy smith looks back at the life and legacy of rock hudson. ♪ ♪ you are my inspiration ♪ ♪ marie ♪ for most of it, like a storybook. >> i am an inspector. >> what would you like to inspect? >> you. ♪ >> reporter: rock hudson started steaming up the screen hadin th 1950s and continued nearly four decades in more than 60 films. >> i'd like to kiss you. >> that's even easier than dancing. >>>> reporter:r: but t today he perhaps overerlooked, says documentary director stephen kijak. why do you think his name is not up there with the james deans and marilyn monroes? >> i don't know. you know, i think it's partly because the legacy ends up just being a rock hudson was that actor who died of aids. >> rock was an icon. >> by far the biggest star in hollywood. >> not did women say that's the man i want to marry, many men said that's the man i'd like see. >> reporter: in the new hbo documentary, he explores his life as a global star and closeted gay man, talking to friends lick ken jillson. >> our social life was private. we didn't go out to restaurants. we would go to rock's house. it was c

and i have reverence for people like mary mccord and brandon van grack and anthony coley, we speak with the code that jack smithives, by doj code. i also know that the asymmetry in which we live means that judge aileen cannon may very well be watching fox news. she may already exist in an echo chamber where she is not the only one intimidated by donald trump. i mean, walt nauta is not the only one. she may also be living in this -- again, we don't know. it may go just fine. she may rule 100% in the department of justice's favor. it's possible. >> confirmed by the senate -- she -- former prosecutor. >> it is entirely possible. -- as you said, we wouldn't be having this conversation -- but we don't live on earth one. and we know that she does not either, because of the way she ruled in the fall. >> she has issued the wildest opinions we have ever seen in criminal process by a federal district court judge, in the country. not just a trump judge, but ever. there was not a single legal expert who thought you could possibly rule in the way she ruled and she wrote that way. she was reversed by trump judges on the circ

smith is, is a political appointee. he's, he is a special counselor, is not an independent counsel. if he reports to marriage, garmin, mary garner. the attorney general is averted to a point, a g p, a binding person. and he approved this indictment uh, actually the archives the rep for reference. the referral on the initial issues regarding the documents recovery. ready for the archives was made by the white house. so this is a organization of the process that you have the attorney general united states behind this effort, against the leading republican opponent of this administration and the possible nominate. keep in mind that 7 years ago mister, call me the guy director said that no prosecutor in their right mind would bring with charges, although there were basis to do so against mrs. clinton because she was the nominee for president of states. so you need to put this in context. donald trump, the former president under presidential candidate, isn't just a normal american, as mrs. clinton was the case 7 years ago. so, ah, what you are a lot of reasons why this is absolutely aggressive and unnecessary political persecu

mary, and claire are all msnbc contributors. glen, take us through what, if any interest, jack smith's team has as they prepare for trial in trump's ongoing statements. is it sort of intelligence as to how he might defend himself? what is it? >> i think it's a lot of things, and some of it could be used in evidence in the obstruction case according to former department officials that i've spoken to in the last 24 hours. all you have to do is look at the affidavit obtained to search mar-a-lago, and they used in several instances things he said on tv, tweets that he made. i think there are a couple of truth social posts. so, donald trump sort of performing in the public arena as a political player, and we've talked about this many times, is ill serving him as a client. and i think you're absolutely right about his lawyers. how do you defend someone who insists on going into the public sphere and saying things that could potentially later be used against him at trial? trump's larger calculation here is that the legal proceeding will be subsidiary to the political one, that by winning over his base and by powering through this politic

because of course i agree with everything mary said not just about the sentiment expressed but the callousness and trumpness in which he expressed it. jack smithith the people, the peep who have been put in the danger, and then went to the abstract. there's nothing more to be said. they're 100% right. i'll make a quick legal point. most crimes, including a murder you referred to, are retrospective and you are getting the facts, and it's important to deter going forward. this was one from the very beginning that was looking both ways. as he was sitting there, posing an extreme danger, not just for what he'd done but what he might do. that was the urgency that led everyone to eventually -- we have some reporting on this just today -- saying we have to go in, get a search, even though it's a daunting thing with a former president. this is something that really matters for our national security risk in 2024, 2025, et cetera, and our allies, not just redressing past terrible conduct. >> so interesting. i remember when i was covering the trump administration day in and day out, and anyone in government wouldn't talk to me then. but a former national

mary, thank you so much for your testimony, your leadership, and for sharing that story. what a pivotal moment for you, and it just underscores how cruel the exploitation truly is. miss vanderburg. >> morning. chairman smithing number and members of the committee, it's an honor to testify before you today. my name is marching of engine bird, and i'm -- i also just want to say that it's an honor to testify alongside bella, gina, and robert. thank you all for your leadership. we couldn't do this, any of this without. you before i begin, i just want to thank you, congressman smith. i have appeared before you over your last 25 years of leadership on human trafficking, testifying before you on multiple occasions to discuss peacekeeping and human trafficking by government contractors, trafficking of domestic workers by diplomats, and forced labor in global supply chains. i am particularly grateful to you for your attention to forced labor, which is an egregious violation of human rights. we have gathered together today to discuss the implementation of the tvpra. and so i want to begin this morning with the successes. the first success is accountability. that epa has proven to be a powerful tool to hold traffick