people that have pioneered it and john is the person who has experienced it. >> rose: let me turn to mary stein,-- murray stein, give me an overnight adding to what eric said and the prevalence of it. >> so as dr. kandel mentioned post traumatic stress disorder is very common in our military personnel who have been returning from iraq and afghanistan, and the rates, you heard, are up to one in five people with post traumatic stress disorder or depreltion, substance abuse, those all kind of travel together. but it's also very common in civilian life so in the u.s. general population, estimates of similar around 2 to 3% of people have post traumatic stress disorder in their lifetime. some people are more likely to develop ptsd because of their occupations. a lot of post traumatic stress disorder in firefighters, in policemen and women. and then as eric also mentioned, more ptsd in the general population in women than in men in large part because of the kinds of traumatic experiences women are often exposed to, domestic violence, sexual trauma and the like. >> rose: is the core here the fear, whet