lincoln without steven a. douglas? well, let me address mary and then douglas. the answer is mary todd and steve steven a. douglas are completely indispensable figures for the creation of abraham lincoln. there's no lincoln without these two people in illinois. mary doesn't play quite the same role as she did earlier in the first volume, but she plays a very important role here, and it's a little known incident in which lincoln runs for the senate in 1855, not 1858 against douglas. he runs for the senate in 1855. she pushes him to run. he was slated to run for the state legislature, and she -- he's elected again, and she -- he's been a congressman in the legislature, she thinks -- the senate seat opens up, and she thinks this is completely beneath him. his ambition is a little engine that knew no rest, and mary's was real are knew no rest, and lincoln's friend describe a period of two days of yelling and shouting and lincoln hanging his head and at the end of which he drops his being elected to the state legislature and announces for the senate because his wife says, you're a senator. and it's really impor