where is mary todd lincoln buried? willy. he's she's buried with all the lincolns are buried together. yes. and why did they why did they open? his coffin, i think you said six times. six times to ensure that it was him he was moved, too. there were so many threats of his his coffin being essentially snatched and held for ransom that. a lot of times whenever they moved him. they'd peek in there to make sure that it was him. and suitcase zinc chloride worked. so well that when the coffin was opened for the final time in 1901, the condition of i want to say there was 17 or 18 people that viewed him that final time, along with his son, robert. he was in a remarkable state of preservation to those that viewed him in 1901. what's his number on the brace for that? because you said he was 21. and i don't know how much experience he had, but how did that all work out? well, i think he i think his embalming during the civil war traumatized him. he left embalming immediately. the civil war, he was a lithograph for for a short amount of

when mary and abraham lincoln first met in springfield illinois, this is one of the things that blew lincoln away about mary toddknew henry clay, his political hero. clay ran for president several times and never made it, but lincoln was a great admirer of clay, he admired clay. it was the idea money should be put into projects like roads and canals and eventually railroads to help infrastructure, the same thing we hear about today. lincoln felt, as someone from a very rough frontier, he felt that was an important development of the west. it is one big reason he stuck with the whig party most of his political life and left it because he realized it was coming to an end, and joined the republican party and runs as a republican. when he runs for the senate, he is a republican. but the caller is right, henry clay was one of lincoln's heroes , somebody that shaped his views and values. host: what about frederick douglass? guest: that is another interesting relationship, frederick douglass was one of the courageous orators in this country's history, and a great abolitionist. really one of the greatest statesmen i thi

when mary and abraham lincoln first met in springfield illinois, this is one of the things that blew lincoln away about mary toddknew henry clay, his political hero. clay ran for president several times and never made it, but lincoln was a great admirer of clay, he admired clay. it was the idea money should be put into projects like roads and canals and eventually railroads to help infrastructure, the same thing we hear about today. lincoln felt, as someone from a very rough frontier, he felt that was an important development of the west. it is one big reason he stuck with the whig party most of his political life and left it because he realized it was coming to an end, and joined the republican party and runs as a republican. when he runs for the senate, he is a republican. but the caller is right, henry clay was one of lincoln's heroes , somebody that shaped his views and values. host: what about frederick douglass? guest: that is another interesting relationship, frederick douglass was one of the courageous orators in this country's history, and a great abolitionist. really one of the greatest statesmen i thi

is it true that douglass was a romantic rival of lincoln's for the hand of mary todd? yeah. i would refer you to chapter 11 in the political apprenticeship of stephen douglass. it's it's entirely about mary and todd. she she was in springfield at exactly right time. lincoln had just won this in the long nine, had won the state capital for springfield just before she got there. and and she there were tons of new beaus running around town this was her third time there. and she wouldn't the last time there she stayed and her brother in law, ninian ward edwards, married to mary todd. sister elizabeth was worried about how how flippant and how gregarious she was. she nearly and word edwards told a friend that mary todd could make a bishop forget his prayers. okay. i mean, mary writes about she says later in my coterie in springfield, there were many beaus, including stephen a douglas, but he was dead. and i don't see mary. i don't see a whig marrying a democrat. that's the ultimate statement i'm having. i'm not mary lincoln. she was a real whig. henry, let's give you the last ques