. >> i think they are, but rose mary would probably know about their certification. so the notice of violation that joe walsh had issued is for led only, not for asbestos. >> the department of health very compartmentalized and joe is only the led person. we were not able to get the asbestos person because we are only one family. >> if somebody with the proper certification and did all the cleaning for the led -- >> mold. >> they would have to do that first before they touch anything else, they would have to do the led first. are you will be to let them do that if they presented a plan for that? >> this is -- the ironic part is that we actually obtained protocols and everything from licensed people back last summer because they wouldn't do it. we presented them with multiple bids, multiple people of getting this done, begging them to do this, and they refused and we believe it's mainly because of the threats -- he wants us gone, we're under rent control, and now we've cost him money and that kind of they thing, but all we've done is asked for the led and asbestos to be cleaned properly and our stuff to be cle