joining me now is maryanne williamson. >> why did you run as a independent.ou would caucus as a democrat and why not as a democrat? >> our founding documents don't mention political parties and george washington warned against them. it is unhealthy for our democracy and put a choke hold on the public discourse. abolition didn't come from a major party and civil rights movement didn't come from a major party. the main issue to deal with domestic surveillance for sfans and shrinking civil liberties. they are not left- right issue. we need an american conversation and it is interesting being an independent in an open primary, i have to tell you, i go to my campaign events and no one knows who is the democrat or republican and it is lovely and wonderful and like gives us my values are better than yours oppositional adversarial on our own fellow citizens that is not healthy at this point. >> you thought obama care was okay to start but didn't go far enough. that may be out of sync with the americans that think obama care has gone way to far. >> i don't think that