it was really cannot present have made what i consider the boldest move of putting maryborough in for product development. now the broader question, do i think it was good to bring outsiders then? i think because we've got outsiders in all three american come and is now. if the searcher marconi at chrysler jeep, alan mullally afford again ackerson at gm. i was always have the feeling that an automotive ceo should have an automotive background because he needed to understand the industry and make the right judgment. i revise my opinion on not. what i think is the most important is for the non-automotive experienced ceo to be possessed obviously have good leadership skills, but to have the judgment to be able to listen to the right people. as alan mullally breezily sad, he said somebody asked him come you weren't not a motive person. how does you know what to do to fix for? he said i can't afford. i didn't have a clue about what to do to fix forward. but all of the ideas on fixing forward were right there with my people. these are people who had been held down, had been listened to, but

because if you are quiet, besides doing the voice of the tour guide come you also hear the sound of maryborough's sylvester screening. she's asking where children are, where are my children. underneath the genteel faÇade of this house and behind the image of this lovely woman in the 17 \40{l1}s{l0}\'40{l1}s{l0} and 50s is the figure of madness. she was so mentally ill but quite unusual for the age when most people would have stayed at home with their families, no matter how crazy they were, mary was taken off to westchester county and institutionalized there. she came back home, treatment was of no use. she died in 1750, and i found this out only in a sermon published about her husband who was a very loving and marvelous husband. you read the letters that he wrote to his daughters who were then living, not on the island any longer, and you see how much he cared for this poor, madwoman he would write to his daughters, your poor mother is not well. and you can see from the institutional records what that actually meant. although we don't know what it is that she suffered from. so there she was in h

maryborough who was executive vice president for product development and certainly in the case of married laura often spoken of as a candidate to succeed dan ackerson as ceo of general motors and ford motor company has a number of highly placed females whose names as gave me now. i will make this prediction. i think within five to six years at the latest one of the large automobile companies will have a female ceo. >> host: do you think it took someone like dan eggers and coming from outside the industry to start to appreciate the value of when then and d. you think the recent trend in the last five or 10 years is from outside the industry has been something of the industry needed to get it shaken up a little? >> guest: yes, i do. first of all i think in the case of general motors i think rick wagoner was very open to female leaders and wanted to see them promoted as fast as possible and put them in conditions of greater responsibility. and willing to push female leaders pretty fast. you know maybe even take a little risk and push them faster than what we would normally say they were read