. >> mandolin founder, marykay hughes just raised $5 million, including money from her former boss ofe. she left salesforce to make mandolin happened. that's a big move. you were a highly placed executive at salesforce and now it's sink or swim for you. >> that is very true, but i'm six months in and not looking back. >> what led you into music? >> it was really just the pain point that was exposed when the pandemic started. it didn't take long to realize that fans and artists were struggling by the lack of live music and they needed a way to connect without the in person shows happening and the opportunity seemed very exciting and the music industry, it didn't take me long to investigate it and realize that the ability to leverage technology and digital transformations and many things i have learned at salesforce, the music industry wasn't taking of fully yet and, so, starting with live streaming but then digital engagement beyond that was a big market opportunity and the time we have spent so far has made the opportunity very large. >> it is amazing, you know, the established indust