you were there with masawi? judith: i was there with another convicted terrorist who was being held and subsequently was convicted. brian: what is the story about you trying to interview him? either one. judith: he had a floor to himself and i wanted to ask him if he was the 20th hijacker. by the way, deputies tell me he was crazy as a loon. but crazy, vicious. crazy, dangerous. but, i still wanted to try and interview him. i worked in the laundry part-time and does the library and part-time. to keep myself busy. i arranged to deliver his sheets and, and towels one day. at the time that he was on the list to get them. when he opened the door to his suite, i was going to pop the question. the day that i was scheduled to deliver his sheets and towels, i learned that patrick fitzgerald was on his way to the jail to offer me a deal that would get me out of jail. for a moment i thought, do you think he could come back tomorrow? then i realized, that was silly. this would have to be another story that i did not get to

masawi comes to mind because it became apparent in the course of the trial that he was crazy. >> repeating well, the only one accused of the 9/11 hijacks. >> that has been tried since. >> he was tried in washington. >> tried in washington, d.c. everybody thought he would get the death penalty. but he didn't. i went back and looked at some of the facts. he was almost deemed not competent to stand trial. and ultimately they reticently found that he was competent to stand trial but the jury felt enough sympathy, i think to let him live, unbelievably. sometimes if you handle the guilt phase probably with the jury and accept the responsibility for the act even if your client isn't crying, sobbing, and heaving at the table, the jury will come around to the death penalty phase. look sometimes death would be a relief. and they can think about their crimes for every day for the rest of theirs lives. >> we're following another story today. as you know, the anger in south carolina and the demands there for justice one day after police arrested one of their own for murder. a quite police officer shot