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we think the management team at masco has done a great job. and we're not talking huge appreciation, but in masco's case, maybe $5 more a share. >> before i let you go, what was your take on the developments in detroit this week, given your family's history there, given some of the work that you have done there and the decision by the judge to say that the bankruptcy filing can go forward in. >> you know, it's very unfortunately, obviously, detroit has to do that. it's a reality. it's the first time for us to be able to address the chronic problems that face detroit. dan gilbert got involved with an initiative, in a ever a movemenu know i've been involved with, blight elimination. the mayor is behind it. and the mayor-elect. we're excited longer term about it. we're on our way back up. stay tuned on detroit. >> bill, good to talk to you. thanks for being here. >> scott, thank you. >> let's trade housing stocks. where's the value? >> you see, i don't think the value's in the homebuilders, and why gamble on them. rates have always been the detri

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something like a masco, weyerhowser, they have exposure.modeling, i think that theme stays well in 2014. weyer houseer has a lot going forward. >> i disagree. there's a couple forces in this world. compound interest is one of them. demographics is another. we have been off the charts in terms of housing starts and relative to creation of households in this country. >> that's true. >> i think that will reassert itself when the way is clear for kind of more normal economic activity. you know what, the big theme for 2014 is shaping up to me, normalcy. i think we're getting back on the curve for a lot of different indicators. >> you're assuming these companies can actually continue to -- the stocks themselves, from an investment point of view, you're assuming their margins can stay strong. and i think that the environment gets more competitive in 2014. >> notice, stephanie. >> for me i would rather own companies that have exposure into housing. i believe in housing psych cal but not the housing stock -- >> you make the call on margin. i don't m