we are going back right now to masha gessen. joining us by telephone from tbilisi, georgia, award-winning russian-american journalist and author of many books. masha, you were talking about alexei navalny. you have written extensively about alexei navalny, the longtime nationalist, clearly, for many years, anti-immigrant, opposition leader in russia. and then if you can go to -- masha: that is really inaccurate. amy: why do you say that? masha: look, he is a pro-democracy activist. he has made two -- videos. he has clarified his position repeatedly. i have absolutely no doubt that he is an internationalist. [inaudible] especially right now. he is in prison. -- just not right. [inaudible] we really need to be talking about this person, pro-democracy, who survived an assassination attempt, and now they are attending to kill him slowly in prison. amy: and can you respond to president biden -- president putin clearly saying this is an issue of -- this is our own issue and not anything for the united states to intervene? masha: well,

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