individuals who come to each protest and they're the ones that are causing the problems and you still mashaal it have you seen any arrests yourself today. no no arrests that i've seen so far but let's be clear there are thousands of people in this demonstration there are police officers all around i'm sure there have been individuals who are taken in we do see regular detentions of individuals who are causing problems at the protest the problem we understand is that most of them are being released within a couple of days there is a sense in and i have no evidence of this but i've certainly been told that many of them she come from wealthier families and they go all in fact the group are using their own funds to provide legal means for the individuals to get them out of jail because it does not come from that's things i hear from people to king it's very difficult to establish who the black bloc so there are sensor like a cell where there is one individual who's in contact with 6 people those 6 people may be in contact with others but they're not cross pollinating not giving the details to eac