the generals and colonels, the maslin maslin -- general was there sometimes at the table, sometimes elsewhere in m.o.d. they would look to him and say, can we talk about this? in each case he went like this, go ahead. c'mon, go ahead. we had that thing discussion back at d.o.d. about how much we could share and disclose. at the end of this discussion and in the months and years following, we provided assistance with detecting threats to weapons trains, help with tracking weapons by more digital means, also some sharing of experience on personal reliability, including testing and other methods. but the end of our march 1995 meeting in moscow, where we first discussed this, the general invited his team and ours to one of the seats of the patriarch of the russian orthodox church to have lunch and to tour the monastery and meet someone from the patriarch's office. at the end of this rather extraordinary day, which is at the end of an extraordinary week, i asked general maslin why did you bring us here? he said, and i quote, "because god is watching us and watching what we do." whether it is god o