and jordan. >> okay. >> thank you very much, masood. i think it was music to my ears listening to starting with mondher and finishing with ali. the revolution started not because of food and bread on the table. it started for dignity and freedom. my worry with a plan being a fantastic plan that's been put forward here of the pillars with objectives, the same thing with the way you're doing for the next 12, 13 months, what you want to do, i this i you're going to have bread and food revolution coming to you if you think you're going to go through that and it's going to be done. i think as obama said last year, this is history in the making. it's the beginning of history. you are starting from zero. start from zero in a world where everybody's bankrupt, we have crisis from europe to united states and elsewhere in terms of financial crisis, economic crisis and even sovereign crisis and that perspective. you need to kick start the economies. the only way you're going to kick start these economies, you're not going to have stability coming j

. >> thank you very much, masood, and thanks to the carnegie endowment for making this event possible. the freedom and justice party in egypt has outlined an economic strategy and launched two processes to mature it. one process is a process of dialogue to get as much feed back, different perspectives and so on. and the other process is to technically formulate a policy package that would support that strategy. my role in the next 5 to 17 minutes is to try to lay out the strategy in, i hope, clear terms. the strategy has actually four pillars. one is to expand the private sector. limit and hopefully shrink the government. empower the civil society. and fourthly, integrate egypt in the global economy on more favorable terms. just go a little bit into each one of these very briefly. just to give you an idea of how suppressed the egyptian economy is and how underperforming it is and how there's a huge need to expand the private sector, egypt's contribution to world trade is close to .23 of 1% of the global trade. that comes from a population of 1.2% of the world population. so this is de

. >> thanks for giving me the opportunity, masood, but my answer -- >> marwan. >> my concern with all the education reform efforts in the arab world including what i've heard so far from you is that they are concentrating on the engineering aspects, the technical aspects of the problem. trying to increase, you know, scores in math and sciences, trying to build more schools, et cetera. what we don't hear enough about is the value system. are we teaching our students to criticize, to question, to treat, you know, truths as relative rather than absolute? are they being taught scientific reasoning? these are all issues that if they are in the old systems taught how to do that, you know, the fear was that they would then be able to criticize their own governments whether secular or religious and that is why they have not been taught that. is there a realization that in today's world, unless you teach people the elements and the value of diversity and tolerance and acceptance of different points of views and accepting that what you are being taught in class is not necessarily the truth, is