he was talking about weapons of mass destruction. boo, you all get scared. he participated in the writing of the document called "project for a new american century suzy which basically said we should dominate the middle east -- anything less than that pearl harbor type of event would not be enough to motivate america to go off and meet that agenda. guest: donald rumsfeld did not fire a general shensecky. actually, he did not fire any general. he only fired tom white, the army secretary. a number of people feel ihe should have fired more people. his successor bob gates has dismissed six senior officials. he did pull the rug out from under shensecky by allowing were to be publicized 18 months early of who he would be replaced with at the end of his term, but shensecky was allowed to serve out his term. it is no question there were many strains between donald rumsfeld and the the general, between other members of the joint chiefs of staff. they resented being sidelined by donald rumsfeld who could be very domineering. a number of four-car officers and other of

guest: concerning weapons of mass destruction, clearly that is misjudgment.bush and all the other officials will have to continue to address that misjudgment of the weapons of mass destruction. donald rumsfeld did believe that report. of all the senior officials if he should have known better or at least question that intelligence more aggressively than he did. he tried to warn against believing too much in the conventional wisdom, not challenging enough assumptions and intelligence reports. he was very fond of disturbing to people the preface of a book on pearl harbor which warns against falling into this kind of conventional thinking and not challenging conventional wisdom sufficiently, and yet here was a case where rumsfeld himself did not seem to question is enough. host: moments ago we showed the picture it from your books of his meeting saddam hussein. guest: the meeting occurred in december 1983 when he says served as a presidential envoy richard when he served as the convoy president reagan to the middle east. he was instructed by the reagan administr

or elements of weapons of mass destruction to iraq or anybody else. so far there are no proceeds of this book to give to anybody. i do want to say though that a number of the calls understandably sound very critical of rumsfeld and i understand that and i think my book overall is quite critical and quite a tough on rumsfeld but it does attempt to provide a kind of a nuanced view of him because he is a complicated character and i think it's important to understand where he was responsible for things alone where there was responsibility to be blamed to be shared and where in some cases maybe he really wasn't the key person responsible. >> host: bradley graham's new book, "by his own rules" goes on sale today. thanks for joining us this morning. >> guest: thanks for having me. >>> bradley graham is a military foreign affairs correspondent for the washington post. for more information, visit washingtonpost.com. >>> this summer book tv is asking what are you reading? >> i'm charles gibson at abc news. the book on ibm most looking forward to this summer is

guest: concerning weapons of mass destruction, clearly that is misjudgment. clearly, that is misjudgment that rumsfeld and all of the other top officials in the bush administration are going to have to continue to address. , rumsfeld was coming did believe the intelligence report that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. but, i think, of all this in your administration officials, as i write in the book, rumsfeld should have known better, or at least should have questioned that intelligence more aggressively than he did, because he made a point always and head for years of trying to warn against believing too much in the conventional wisdom, not challenging enough assumptions and intelligence reports. he was very fond of distributing to people the preface of a book on pearl harbor, which warns against falling into this kind of conventional thinking, and not challenging the conventional wisdom sufficiently, and yet here was the case for rumsfeld himself didn't seem to question enough. >> host: moments ago we showed our viewers a picture that is not in your boo

proceeding from this, libya programs of weapons of mass destruction under the vision, libya is a party to making africa nuclear weapons free zone. it looks to the establishment of a nuclear weapon in the middle east region. we believe that the international community has wasted a precious opportunity that would encourage other states to get rid of weapons of mass destruction have libya began properly rewarded, and had necessary assistance given, particularly with regard with water -- to water desalinization, and the production of energy. the international community failed necessary and some of at the proper time to dprk, it did not make use of the situation of libya in a correct manner. libya emphasizes the right to force all states through the peaceful use of nuclear energy in accordance with the provisions of the non- proliferation treaty. it emphasizes that nuclear installations of all states, with no exception must be coming in this connection, we would like to state that the measures taken by the international community must be global, and on selective, and they must extend to the

it is relatively inexpensive compared to other weapons of mass destruction. they feel that this is a major threat. caller: i have a question regarding, does the united states get flak from iran and other countries, when they can easily make the argument that the u.s. is the only nation that uses weapons of mass destruction on a massive scale, like the drop on japan? guest: it is true that the u.s. is one of the originating country iies, one of the five countries that had it originally. these countries sometimes to complain about this issue. north korea signed a treaty, iranian signed on to that same treaty. they said that we will on the pursuit nuclear issues for peaceful purposes. not for weapons. north korea has change their course on that and many people believe that iran will. this treaty didn't exist until the early 1970's. host: the language of the wmd commission, the recommendation was that the next in ministration -- administration must drop the iran and north korea nuclear weapons program. guest: i think that is very important. we need the ability to

an enhanced inspection, prescribe goods such as weapons of mass destruction or ballistic missile parts. designation of new entities and sanctions, and within the u. n. security council, improved mechanisms for monitoring the implementation of these sections which i think is very important. so that outlines a range of actions that will take place, from which, in order to obtain relief, north koreans will have to comply with their earlier obligations. these measures will go forward. our strong preferences to engage serious diplomacy with north korea, this is not something the united states is doing on a unilateral basis, we are acting in concert with our 2 treaty allies and the republic of south coriander in concert with partners in the 6 party process, china and russia. >> what restraints are there, at has there been a rebuttal? is there a lack of prevention? is there some opening in the near-term? >> there has been no lack of communication of our concern and what we are prepared to do. north korea has been listening to some degree of confidence. we have had no effective response from n

it is unfortunate that -- basige means mobilization of masses. the groups formed to protect hussein from the invasion of iraq. back then they didn't have military equipment. they used the mass of people, using sheer numbers to defend against iraq. they also got involved in a number of causes, having to do with agriculture and other issues. it is unfortunate that their name is related with thuggery and people with clubs and knives to breakup conflict. it is referenced in revolution regard. that is something i'm worried about once the revolutionary guards are involved. once they might do that is tying the protests to foreign middle link. once that happens, that is the name of national security that allows for the revolution guards to pull out. i hate to think what the outcome of that might be. >> let's go to the phones. host: baltimore, maryland on the line for the democrats. caller: good morning. i wanted to see what his thoughts were, if people knew that more people in the west and u.s. and all over the world are in support of him or do you think

his weapons of mass destruction program it now appears that he had terminated. not long after desert storm we did not know that. whatever the merits of the decision to go to war in iraq in 2003, the fact remains that we now have a responsibility to try to help iraq be as secure as it can be, not to disintegrate. not to present a threat again. and also not to provide a base for al qaeda in iraq. i fought against al qaeda, which is dedicated to starting a broader war. so, whatever the merits of the decision to invade iraq in 2003 -- and rational people can disagree on that, i think it is hard to make any argument except that an american commitment to maintaining and preserving the stability we bought at such great cost of the past several years is in the interest of the 19 states and of the world. host: the me ask you specifically about this area you know well. it is sunni triangle. what is it like there today? guest: it is very different from what it was when i fought there. in august last year -- a host: where is it on a thismap? guest: it is in the south of ira

from georgetown, mass. stand on the independent line. >> caller: thanks for having me on. sorry to go back and rehash old events, but i truly think this is the giant gorilla in the room. recently, physical evidence has been analyzed under electron microscope that's very high-tech explosives were used in new york city on 9/11. it is a material that is very finely ground down to a very small size to work has an explosive which, depending on how you detonate it, can be used in several ways. i am wondering, with this new information that has come out, in a peer reviewed paper basically saying there was a significant amount of this material, they found significant amounts of unexploded material, with much physical evidence showing this type of thing, and the fact, i don't think most americans are aware of the fact on the morning of september 11th there was a very large military training exercise going on, and our vice-president was in charge of that exercise shortly after bush got in office he signed an executive order giving basically command of military war game operations to

their plan -- we can guess what that will become all but massive repression to complete silence the masses, but on the other hand, there are those contemplating the candidacy of when and how owill it be their moment to join? this is a complicated matter, and we cannot put them on the spot and expose them. some of it is coordination that we're trying to have with them. the other part is in what way they will have to implement this on their own rights. at this point, it is very under the radar, for obvious reasons. but i anticipate that at some point, there will be much clearer positions announced by those who are more visible within this very sys

in my view that a democrat critic iran and a nation committed to peace need not pursue weapons of mass zrugs. i cannot envision in my own mind, if i were there today, that as an iranian i would feel safe ever if everybody around us had their own set of nuclear weapons pointing at each other. that is not a safer environment under any circumstances. i don't buy that argument. but don't forget, last and not least, that most of the regime's rhetoric in the last few years, and perhaps even longer before that, had always been mostly aimed for not domestic consumption, but for external congressional sudges. particularly toward the arabs in the district. that has deflected the problems in iran itself, which until now have left many combused as to what is the -- confused as to what is the real sentiment of the people. and now you will hear more and more because of the people there, what i knew all along, what the iranian people really think, when you have people struggling to make ends meet, when you have a factory worker that has not been paid a salary over at least a half a year, and his enti

weapons of mass destruction and reduces our dependence on foreign oil. finally, we should insist that at least 80% of future funding for afghanistan be devoted to the smart security efforts i just described. right now the supplemental, as i told you, devotes more than 90% of its dollars to purely military efforts, efforts that are getting us nowhere. . madam speaker, we must not repeat the mistakes of the past. we've got to stop writing more blank checks for open-ended occupations. this is what the american people want. and congress must listen. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from -- mr. burton for indiana. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? without objection. mr. hensarling: madam speaker, i rise today to honor the life of william c. dove mccarty. and recognize his commitment and service to his community, the state of texas, and to our great nation. dove a resident of athens texas passed away last month. he was a loving husband of 58 years to jo ann. he was proud f

that general direction. >> repeat that number again. 7% of the customers. >> three-quarters of land mass>> okay. thank you. it is all owned by those individual consumers throughout those 47 states, mr. chairman. >> also, i think we can all agree that the signing of the american clean energy and security act in 2009 is going bring about a profound change in the way that not only energy is generated in this country, but the way that we use energy in this country. it's going to change our lives and with that understanding, i hope that we can also recognize that we've got to be prepared for that kind of a dramatic change and the transmission system as it exists today was certainly not designed for this kind of change. in fact, it wasn't designed for the 1992 energy act with the deregulation on the wholesale level. so we're still trying to adjust to that. >> what we would suggest, mr. chairman, is that we need a sense of urgency here and we need transmission as a part of this act. it needs to be addressed as this act. as a result of that, we think there are some very basic principles that nee

the czars claim they know best how to take care of the masses. this administration used this russian term czar since the russians invented the polit bureau. it was made up of political party appointees that made political decisions and ruled the country through their dictates. we have 21 czars and we are moving towards the socialist control and less government by the people. and that's the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois rise? -- ohio rise. mr. kucinich: request permission to address the house for one minute. despite agreements over funding for the monetary fund and closure of the guantanamo bay detention facility, the primary inintent of the supplemental is to continue funding the wars in iraq and afghanistan. as members who remain opposed to the bill, we need to make sure and make clear our opposition and work to defeat the bill. it's notable that attempts to make important changes to the legislation, such as a call for an exit strategy from afghanistan or demands for increased

the american recovery and reinvestment act is critical to mass transit. prior to enactment apta did a survey and of 200 providers they identified a hundred projects totaling $16 billion that was shovel ready. as you know, the american recovery and reinvestment act allocated $8.4 billion to transit. 50% of these funds have been obligated or currently waiting fda approval. septa a share of the i.r.a. funds totals $191 million. we identified 25 projects and because we were out early with the bids construction bids came in a 17% less than our engineering assessment and we were able to add an additional seven projects. of the 32 projects to make 22 of the projects have been awarded the accounting for setting fire% of the funds. some of the major projects dealing with exercise an option for 40 additional hybrid buses from new fire industry is to do with the growing ridership. replacement of nine year-old track at the broad street line and on the media lines. implementation of five bridges, the oldest of which build in 1905. and the rehabilitation of three major

across the country and we serve however 7% of the population through about three-quarters of land mass in the united states. so when we talk about transmission and when we talk about the fact that you're talking abut generating a renewable energy in this country is most likely going to come from areas served by electrical cooperatives we have a stake in that and we plan to have a big part of the future as we move forward in the general direction. >> repeat that number, 7% -- >> three-quarters of land mass. and it is all owned by the individual consumers throughout the 47 states, mr. chairman. also i think we could all agree the signing of the american queen energy security act of 2009 is going to bring about a profound change in the way that not only energy is generated in the country but the way the we use energy in the country is going to change our lives. and with that understanding, i hope that we could also recognize that we have got to be prepared for that kind of dramatic change. the transmission system as it exists today was certainly not designed for this kind of change in fac

person by person household by household, community by community, african-americans are evicted in massf the summer they had to form a tent city. and that is just one aspect. night writers repeatedly targeted african american leaders and our people in the tent city. anybody you housed and was associated was targeted for racial violence. people lost their jobs. some never came back. it was this long process. the possibility that you would lose your job. they continued to organize and not just allow the vote. that was the initial catalyst. like so much of the african american freedom struggle that gets ignored they quickly moved beyond the vote to fight for quality education by improving sigurd digit schools. to desegregate what schools. to improve and increase the opportunities for black farmers. so they are organizing black farmers. then it moving beyond to actually organize an independent political party to decontrol. >> 80 percent african american. what kind of participation in the freedom organization was there? >> slow at first. >> a lot of fear. >> a lot of fear. it is funny. when

the mass new regulatory burdens proposed by this cap and trade scheme will cut the growth and innovation in this country and lose jobs in this country. let us not pass this bill. >> and his time has expired. the person from california? >> i reserve my time. >> the gentleman from california has 20.5 minutes. california has 28 1/2. mr. barton: thank you, madam speaker. i want to yield three minutes to the distinguished minority whip, mr. cantor of virginia. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is recognized for three minutes. mr. cantor: thank you, madam speaker. i thank the gentleman. there's one thing everyone this chamber should be able to agree on, we need to focus on job creation and relieve the burden on middle class families, not on middle class families, not increasing it. >> according to an mit study, the legislation will force middle-class americans to pay as much as $3,100 in high prices every year. the epa estimates that a family of four will pay an additional average of $1,100 each year. the impact on jobs is equally dismal. a cra study finds the legislation wi

i think that today if it presents an opportunity for such prescreened candidates to join with the masses, it will be very difficult for us not to anticipate that at some point, surf candidates will be faced with an impasse. either they have to really take the side of the people, peeling completely away from the regime and allegiance to it, because you cannot at the same time hold allegiance to the regime and claim that you are with the people. a decision will have to be made pretty soon. the legitimacy of such candidates is a direct result of whether or not they actually take the side of the street and peel away from the regime, or forever lose their legitimacy the way the supreme leader has lost it now. towards the future, i have always said to all of you many times, and i repeat it yet again today, that my sole objective is to help my compate rots reach freedom. let's have the liberty to vote and choose freely. i would like to be able to be in my country one day, come behind such a podium, talk to my people, and every other candidate for whatever reason like like to talk to the people,

weapons of mass destruction with peter brookes. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c- span. tomorrow on c-span2, a look at u.s.-india relations and the obama administration with remarks by india's ambassador to the u.s. that begins live at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2. >> how is c-span funded? >> publicly funded. >> donations may be? i have no idea. >> government. >> c-span gets its funding through federal funding. >> a public funding thing. >> may be. i don't know. >> 30 years ago, america's cable companies created c-span as a public-service, a private business initiative. no government mandate, no government money. >> next, from this morning's "washington journal," a discussion on the economy and unemployment. this lasts about an hour. host: we are talking about the u.s. economy. peter morrissey \ ici is an ecos professor. how was the economy doing? guest: it is in serious conditions but the statements of the obama administration. it will take a long time to clean up the mess he inherited. not all the issue

the $20 billion needed to bailout not just a highway account but the mass transit account is going to be responsibly paid for. that is the administration's proposal while we work together on a longer-term bill and the revenue sources to they for it. >> the recovery act requires states to projects that are located in economically distressed areas. is there a system you have implemented in order to make sure that is the case, giving priorities that are distressed, or the state legislators allocating funds for political purposes. >> that is a provision within the highway funds. it is one of several factors that need to be considered in selected projects. we have to have projects that are ready to go, moving through the environmental process and are ready to move to construction. what we're seeking is to have as many of those projects as possible located in economically distressed areas. we have developed a mechanism by which we can look with in any given state, where the economically distressed areas, and overlay the projects. the administrators are looking at this process. as well as th

resolutions and disclose its weapons of mass destruction program. that said, they are no increasingly developing a government and security system that can stand on its own. . . host: if you go online you will be able to download this report that we have a hard copy of -- shaping the future of u.s. relationship with iraq. our guest is john nagl. our last call is from philip, hartford, conn. caller: good morning. i'm glad i got through. just quickly, i know you are going off the air. host: i will put you on hold for a minute -- we are getting feedback. we will come back to you. one comment -- if it wasn't for the colonel and me and others like us, the loudmouths' who hate america would not have the freedom to spew their hate. guest: i was privileged when i was at west point to have been with them -- talk with a man who had been in vietnam. talking about jane fonda -- asked him about it, and he said i profoundly disagree with what jane fonda did. i would get wounded again to give her the right to do it. the rights to disagree, to express one's opinions

they are not the masses or as the elitists would have it, the common man, they are very uncommon. individuals, each with his or her own hopes and dreams, plans and problems, and the kind of quiet courage that makes this whole country run better than just about any other place on earth. and that's why rationing is wrong, and that's why question as are wrong. because in fact they eliminate the very power of the individual -- question as are wrong. this -- quotas are wrong. >> this lead us to some profound commitments. having judges that understand that america that has driven god from the public square will no longer be the america that has extended freedom and prosperity for 400 years. understand that individual rights and responsibilities are at the heart of our system, that there are no quotas and no group identities in the american system. understanding that at cape henry, where english-speaking settlers first came, they erected a cross as their first act in order to thank god for having gotten across the atlantic. understanding that at jamestown, our first permanent settlement,

is going to be important to have critical mass as we move to that. a variety of other instruments have been put into place to sort of get at the cost issue because there isn't one flagrant than suits everyone and you have to have a lot of different approaches so certainly we have done a things two-tier networks so some of the smaller employers who aren't making it more cost related choices are making them around when delivery system worse for them. we have done work around centers of excellence. minnesota happens to have cystine dozen new centers of excellence within the blue cross system so it gives us lots of choices and opportunities and air. we profile providers on their quality of and use that data and a that dated transparent in our market and that has been important. has it taken on the full flavor that i think it will in the future? now, but daschle has put information out there and it will become increasingly more information -- important as the information becomes more robust. will also move to let recall a care comparison tool which allows

simon is also known for his work writing and producing tv draw mass such as h.b.o.'s "the wire" and "generation kill" and nbc's "homicide life on the streets." from the national press club, this is about 55 minutes. >> good afternoon. welcome. my name is mark hamerik of ap broadcast. i'm a membership secretary at the national press club. we are the world's leading professional organization for journalists and we are committed to the future of journalism by providing journalism programming and education and fostering free press around the globe. for more information please visit the web site at www.nationalpress.org. i'd like to welcome our speaker and those in the audience today and those who are watching live on c-span. we also provide our broadcasts over itunes for podcasting. we look forward to today's speech. and afterwards we'll ask as many questions from the audience as time permits. i would ask kindly you please withhold your applause from the speech so that we have time for as many questions as possible. for our broadcast audience i would like to explain if y

how could i possibly support a mass murderer who was a rapist who hated children and women. of course i never supported him. .ut if one sentence gets repeated -- >> host: next question from the audience. >> my name is jane thomas from chicago, ill.. i very much appreciate the fact that the 2 of you appear to have lived your values. that is something we all admire, whether we agree or don't. i am a former educator, retired comn member. i appreciate that comment, your support of the union. you have stated some very valid values, goals for education, we ive this umbrella of no child left behind. if you had the choice, the power, what would you do? >> i appreciate you bringing that up. when i answered the earlier question about what i would do if i were the superintendent, there are no superintendents left. this is a metaphor. i should have started exactly nore you just were. i should have said the first thing i would do is reject no child left behind. it has to be rejected totally. one of the callers raised a question about and i rejecting tests altogether? absolutely not. i am

little in the way of education, very little in the way of skills, and tend to settle in areas with masses of people with exactly the same characteristics, which the fact is that just makes it very hard to assimilate them. now this is a delicate balancing act, because i think we need to try to restrict that immigration at the same time we don't alienate a hugely important and growing part of the electorate, and that's an extremely difficult balancingal act and one that i sometimes dispair at republicans being able to pull off. >> roger, your own views on this are prominent and important. could we hear them? >> well, thank you. the center for equal opportunity believes very strongly in the principal of e pluribus unum but we also are on the side of the conservative that relatively high immigration levels are not a bad thing, that nsket they are something that's necessary for the economy to work well, but in order to ensure that those relatively high immigration levels do not jeopardize the principal of e pluribus unum, there needs to be more attention given by the got to the to assimilation

mass. working with the federal government has licensed 2 facilities, 10 miles off of the coast line to bring in el n g, into our market and the new england market. 30% of the natural gas we use in new england, we have licensed 2 facilities, but notwithstanding, mass. saying we don't need another one on land, we are doing it offshore and we have license them. up until this time they have been saying you are going to have another one in massachusetts. even that decision itself could affect the amount of renewals that we need. notwithstanding the fact that natural gas maybe half in its use as cold it is not nearly as good as renewable. it is not going to affect the market place. the ferchas been pressing that for 5 years. that calls into question the federal, out 1-size-fits-all process, where even when the state is saying back off, this is what you are going to have 4 new england. how do we reconcile that? >> mr. chairman, i am not suggesting a 1-size-fits-all process. i am suggesting that f.

systemic risk in the sense your company failed so many companies would fail it was a result in the mass destruction of credit in this country or even the world, that's the question? >> if all else were the same, if the reason for the failure did not impact any of the other companies, or can i think of any other single company out there in the life insurance industry, okay, as a reason they were going to fail did not impact any other company, the answer is no? >> and going back to the previous answer, what you're saying there are certain scenarios we would have something like a terrorist attack a mass disaster, those are the scenarios we should be thinking about in terms of systemic risk. >> in the life insurance industry it could be a broad devalation of credit defaults and so forth. >> to me this had been very helpful. if any of you want to supplement your comments, i would be grateful to you. my time is up, thank you very much. >> we're going to try another round quickly and those members taking their five minutes if she so desire. she can certainly take less if they so desire. i thin

enhanced inspection act provisions for ships suspected of carrying prescribed goods such as weapons of mass destruction or ballistic missile parts. designation of new entities and goods for sanctions. and with than in the u. n. security council itself, improved mechanisms for monitoring the implementation of these sanctions which i think is very important. and so that is i think outlining a range of the actions that would take place, will take place and from which an order to retain -- obtain relief the north koreans will have to begin to comply with the earlier commitments and obligations. >> and if they don't? >> these measures won't go forward. as i stressed our strong preference is to engage in serious of active diplomacy with north korea and this is not something that the united states is doing on a unilateral basis. we are acting very much in concert with our two treaty allies, japan and the republic of south korea, and in concert with our partners in the six party process -- namely china and russia. >> was -- what restraints are on at this point diplomatic route to being pursued? has

you know how mass measurers, every five or ten years you can get away from it.ant to protect gore children and grandchildren from hearinged but you can't because it's everywhere. and the charles manson murders were like that. we were like fred hampton and mark clark just handmurderred by the nib and the chicago police department. a thousand people a day or being killed in vietnam. pay attention to the real issues and you couldn't because of the manson thing. so i gave a speech saying, dig it, charles manson. and i meant it in the most ironic terms. how could i possibly support a mass murderer who was a racist and hated women and children. inconceivable so of course i never supported him but that one sentence gets repeated and tagged with me ad nauseam. >> host: next question from though audience. >> i'm from chicago and i appreciate the fact that the two of you appeared to have lived your values, and that's something that i think we all admire. whether we agree or don't. i'm a former educator, retired, union member. i appreciate that comment, your support of the

and even as the worst thing you represent 75% of all land mass of the united states. garrison ocean mass too that is also out there and we have to factor that-- excuse me? [inaudible] >> that is what i am saying to you. i want to make sure those close the co-ops are able to go into the ocean than have the incentive. we have to work at a fair formula so i thank each of you and we are going to have to stick very close together over the next couple of weeks so we can have this conversation and reflect what our national goals are but with each state, each region and the history of each state in region. states that are not even states, there, and wells, weathered the va or massachusetts have their own traditions in terms of what lands are sacred that might not follow the traditional federal lands act that have the same impact in terms with their relationship with the mr. red states. i'm going to turn over the remainder of the hearing to congresswoman who will bring it to a conclusion gut thank you very much. >> i don't get to sit in this chair very often but i won't make y

been made about medicare and medicare payment reform, it's going to be important to have critical massas we move through that. a variety of other instruments about been put into play to sort of get at the cost issue, because there isn't one flavor that suits everyone, and you have to have a lot of different approaches. so certainly, we've done things to tier networks, so some these smaller employers, who are making more cost-related choices are making them around what delivery system works for them. we have done work around centers of excellence. minnesota happens to have 16 designated centers of excellence within the blue cross system. so it gives us lots of choices and opportunities there. we profile providers on their quality, and use that data and made that data transparent in hour market, and that's been important. has it taken on the full flavor that i think it will in the future? no. but it actually has put information out there and i think it will become increasingly more information -- more important as that information becomes more robust. we've also moved to what we call a c

permitted to develop without consequence of those relationships include a cooperation on weapons of mass destruction? what is the nature of the cargo in number three and planes and ships arriving in burma? which is sometimes a transit point for further global destinations. russia has been transparent in its cooperation with burma in the development of a nuclear reactor reportedly for medical research purposes. it is number three a contributing to the development of burma's nuclear program and if so in one way. what level of international cooperation exists to scrutinize north korea's global trading network and its potential proliferation routes? and can such cooperation be improved? is there a clear understanding of the efficacy and current status of agreements relating to the six party talks in the north korean nuclear program? in essence would any new negotiations be starting from square one? the united states and china have cooperated closely in the six party process about our priorities are not identical. with regard to north korea. while the united states is focus on eliminating nor

it presents an opportunity for such prescreened candidates to join with the masses, and it would be difficult for us not to anticipate for caller: calleat t we would be faced with an impasse. you cannot at the same time hold allegiance to the regime and claim that you are with the people. a decision will have to be made pretty soon. the legitimacy of such candidates is the direct result of whether or not they actually take the side of the streets and peel away from a regime, or forever lose their legitimacy, the very same way that the supreme leader has completely lost it now. we will see how this develops. i always said to all of you, and i repeated yet again today, that my sole objective is to help my compatriots preach freedom -- help my compatriots reach freedom. let's have democracy in iran, let's have the freedom to vote and choose freely. i would like to be in my country one day and come behind a podium and talk to my people and every other candidate, for whatever reason, i would like to talk to their people, and let the people decide. right now, all i am try to do is to help liberate

this right here for a long time was the most mass-produced image of a buffalo ever. this is black diamond, the model for the nickel. in 1913, the u.s. mint, got tired of cohen's with the roman theme. they have the sculptor named james earl frazier, who was born the year of little bighorn, they hired him to make something distinctly american. so he went to the new york's central park menagerie and sculpted this animal and put him on the buffalo mcclendon came the most mass-produced image of a buffalo ever. when the coin started being cranked out, whoever owned this animal, the caretaker in central park decided it was getting too expensive to take care of black diamond, so put them up for auction. then he put it up for private sale and got an offer of $300 on fourteenth street. he wanted to get $500 so he got 304. he ticket to a meatpacking place, processed the animal and sold 1,100,000 pounds of meat off of it. 25 presses are cranking up the image every day. he hung it in his office until 1918. no one knows what happened to it after that. people who are into collins r

even as you were saying, you represent a 75% of the land mass in the united states.there is an ocean mass as well that is also up there. excuse me? that is what i am saying to you. i want to make sure they are able to go out into the ocean and have the incentive. we have to work out a fair formula. we will have to stick very close together over the next couple of weeks so we can have this conversation and reflect on what our national goals are with each state in each region and the history of each state in region. some are commonwealth's not even states which have their own traditions that might not follow the traditional federal lands act. i thank each of you. remainder of the hearing to congresswoman baldwin who will bring to it a close. thank you so much. >> i don't get to sit in this chair very often but i won't make you stay long just because i'm enjoying it. first, a quick comment and i'm not -- i'm construing or interpreting from some of mr. welch's testimony that there's some frustration with the planning occurring at the state level process. one of the thing

caller: i'm wondering why you are not talking about mass transit. everybody is talking about cars and saving gas and all of these countries in europe have mass transit -- trains, buses. you cannot even find a bus or train in louisville, ky. guest: i have long been a supporter of amtrak and i at least hope we would see high- speed rail, something europe has had for decades. there is a big investment to look at high speed rail, to connect people from cleveland, detroit, chicago, st. louis, milwaukee. but obviously transit in urbanized areas, you need that. my district is fairly rural. we do not have things like subway cars. i think we only have one bus in my congressional district. in fact, that needs to be part of the equation, to get people off the road. host: we will have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. up next, we will talk to republican congressman scalise. we will be right back. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> every weekend, the latest nonfiction spa

is going to be important to have critical mass as a move through that. a variety of other instruments have been put into play to get at the cost issue because there isn't one flavor that suits everyone and you have to have lot of the approaches so certainly have done things two-tier networks so some of the smaller employers who are making more costs related joyces are making them around what delivery system works for them. we have done work around centers of excellence. minnesota happens to have 16 designated centers of excellence within the blue cross system so kiss us loss of opportunities there. we profile providers on their quality and use that data and made that data transparent in our market and that has been important. has it taken on the full flavor i think it will in the future? no, but it has been information out there and will become increasingly more information -- in. as information becomes more robust. we have also worked to what we have called peer comparison tool which allows the consumer easy access to move through the various forms of t