tell us about massey mine. to energy massey energy. it was a coal company that originally began in. in west virginia. incorporated in richmond virginia back in the twenty's and you know was a union buster but had a pretty fairly good reputation i saw the picture in your book of mr massey standing in front of his when he started he was told that he was the one of that he was the grandson of one of the founders and. he had sold his interest you know if seventy's massey was known by fluor and sure old dutch shell and put it like that and eventually when around one thousand in the early ninety's the massey family got out of that particular business they had set up as the director or the president and c.e.o. excuse me the c.e.o. was don blankenship notorious man who was an incredible numbers cruncher great accountant who grew up in the area but had a very very tough stance about unions and safety and major political donator. and and there you have it and he helped set the stage toward this sort of autocratic way of management that contributed to the stance so if don blankenship. establis

through a new training program and often does seem to be a more modern company than the more recent massey energy had been and we don't know the results yet i may still have had my office had some fatalities this year but you know nothing like like massey and in many ways massey was a renegade company too in the sense that every time that massey would get cited by m. show or a state regulator they'd fight it to death and rather than fix the day fight it may just take them to court even if it was more expensive to fight it than if they didn't care that there was a way blankenship ran the company as a matter. uncivil he's not going to get out of it go to the group it's what about unions my understanding is that unionized mines are safer than non-unionized mines the truth generally tends to be true i would think because when you add the union and several factors first off you give the workers more power to strike if things are really really bad but the second thing the more important thing i think is that unions have safety committees they offer a nother layer of safety oversight and protection that