one does not want the massive vacation -- massification. people whos in which were followers, who were marched into this, can redeem themselves and reconcile with the natives. but we want those who were the authors of the crimes to face consequences. the pattern internationally has countries with a fair and balanced justice system argue, that is always our preference. sometimes when you have figure leadership is in order to make sure that that is a fair and balanced process, you go to international organizations. but for the larger group of individuals, you look for national. but those institutions need to be ones that are represented in every community. and obviously in syria, sunnis, christians currents -- christian had bes, they represented in the judicial process. even after the yugoslavia tribunal, we had to work to establish a state court at the national level with judges for each of the major communities. we also had international judges that were there for six years. when i saw the investigators, judge, prosecutors, somebody from th