sometime between the 15th of april and april 23, i will meet with dhr as well as vice chair dianne masuta, and we will discuss some of their findings and they probably will suggest a pairing down to a workable number of candidates, and that would be all that i would ask the commission to approve at this point. it is projected after that time that there will be a sub-committee meeting on wednesday april 24th and the full sub commission will then probably decide upon the finalists and you would have input as to how that process works, so what i'm asking today is approval of the dhr process i've described through the management battery test and the supplemental test and the initial cut being made by dhr, and then i might suggest you also calendar an action item sometime around april 18th to just sort of -- we could give you another overview of where we are and then we could see or get input from the full commission as to how many candidates would you be comfortable with us as finalists, how many would you like to see, to interview, and these types of things and many of these interviews would

discussed and there was not any indication that even historic preservation as represented by vice chair masuta was familiar with this particular suggestion, so i think we can only take it from there. >> commissioner borden? >> just quickly for the benefit to have commission, it is on your calendar today as an action item, and it's being placed on the historic preservation commission, their calendar that's being released today for february 6 as an action item, just for your information. >> commissioner borden? >> for the members, to benefit the members of the public, the position's going to post tomorrow the 1st of february, for the commission's secretary position, we have gone through the process with finalizing that description, it will be posted on the dhr website and throughout various publications that any member of the public can e-mail staff to find out about, you will probably see it in publications you will receive, the publication will happen until march 15th and candidates who make the at least minimum requirements will be asked to take the manager's test through the department of dh