anderson. we're watching a lot of things across the country when people are accused of something, whether it's matt lauer or anybody else, and there's generally come getting to the bottom of it. when you fire a national security adviser four weeks into your presidency, that's not a very good optic. but i think he did. and van put his finger on the problem. it's a zombie prosecutor who is, if he is going beyond what is normal, which i believe he is, and i said from the beginning, this should not be about what is the lies by flynn, what's happened is this guy, mueller, is trying to overturn an election now because he thinks -- >> so somebody should be able to lie to a federal prosecutor and get away with it? >> no, of course not. but at this point what is the purpose of an ever expanding prosecutor -- i thought van was going to say this, if you get a federal prosecutor who decides he doesn't like you, you got a lot of trouble, and it doesn't matter what the truth is. he'll find out you filed -- >> van, is that what's happening here? >> listen, it's amazing to me to hear conservatives concerned about