he will make matt bevin if bevin can't make himself a candidate. i think that while it looks like senator mcconnell is operating from a position of weakness, and i agree, those poll numbers are anemic at best, but he's sort of feels like he's got the moxie, he's got the blood and guts to really sort of take on the matt bevins of the world, the senate conservative fund. and he's the one, he thinks of himself as a knife fighter. and he thinks that he's the one who can give them the fight that they've been spoiling for. >> that sounds crazy, i have to say it. i realize that mitch mcconnell is trying to sort of make himself over into a scrappy guy, but mitch mcconnell is mr. magru, in terms of how he's conducted himself as the highest profile guy in the senate. the idea that he's a scrapping knife fighting guy, he may be canny, but i don't think anyone is going to identify with him in a kind of populist way. >> he might be mr. mugu in washington, but he's mr. majestic here in kentucky. the opponents that have gone up against him in the past, they -- he