detective matt carter. >> it was a pile of ashes on the ground.w if anyone was home or not. we knew they were in and out of town a lot. >> as firefighters walked through what appeared to be the fire's epicenter, the master bedroom, their worst fears were confirmed. julie had, in fact, been home that night. >> it was to the right of the box mattresses that we found the remains of julie. they were unsure initially that it was human remains. >> even with all their experience. >> yes. everything was just consumed by fire that things were unrecognizable. >> as for keith, he was away calling on customers in indiana. word on julie's death spread almost as fast as the fire raced through the house. >> i'm getting ready for work, have the tv on in the background. >> we are live in the canterbury hills subdivision on tudor boulevard. >> then temple bradley's phone rang. it was a friend who also knew julie. >> she said "you know there's a fire." "i saw it on tv." she said "it's keith and julie's house." and i just sat there. >> did she know at that point that