congressman matt cartwright of pennsylvania joins me now.gressman, thanks for your time tonight. where were you? how close were you? describe what you saw and what happened. >> ed, it was about quarter after 2:00. we had finished the first vote series for the afternoon, and when you look on the inside of the house of representatives at the speaker, right behind where the speaker is, the next chamber behind that is the speaker's lobby, as you know, and as you proceed further south along the building, the southernmost edge of the building is a balcony where members can go and relax. that's exactly what i was doing. i was having a chat with congressman jerry connelly from northern virginia. two of us were chatting quietly for about five minutes when the shots rang out. and i have to tell you, at first it sounded -- it put me in mind of the first salvo of a 21-gun salute. it was a little ragged. they weren't all together, and then when i put it together, i realized these were shots, and it lasted -- it sounded like at about seven, eight, maybe n

joining me is matt cartwright and the health care sub met. it's good to see you.g me. >> it's my pleasure, alex. how are you? >> i'm well, thanks. i've got to ask, do you agree with the subpoena threat? >> well, you have to realize the house oversight and government reform committee does have the power and the job of looking into all areas of government fraud, waste and abuse. and they have the right to do that. i don't -- you know, i don't relish the idea of hauling secretary sebelius before our committee. given the way that committee has handled itself the rest of this year. it's not exactly an impartial tribunal we're talking about here. it's more of a -- more of a republican spin factory, unfortunately. it kind of -- i like to say i'm proud tore be on that committee, but that's a committee that right now makes the old soviet show trials look like honest exercises in fact finding >> whoo. to which i say yikes. but don't i think she's going to answer the commerce committee questions scheduled on wednesday? >> i'm sure she will. secretary sebelius is a responsibl

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i'm joined now here at our site outside the capitol by congressman matt cartwright. he was on the hill. he heard the shots ring out. congressman, what happened from your vantage point, where were you and where did you go? >> jake, what we had done, we had just finished in the house the first series of votes. it was something after 2:00. outside the speaker's lobby, there is a balcony. it is on the south side of the capitol, faces south. i was having a quiet chat as many members of congress do with jerry connelly, congressman from northern virginia, having a quiet chat, sitting on the balcony outside and we heard in quick succession, it sounded like seven or eight shots all in less than a second. and what we heard was that they were coming from right behind me, the way i was seated, and looking southwest toward the raburn house office building. i suspected it was either coming from there or it was a sound ricochet. >> echoing because there are a lot of big cavernous buildings around here. >> right. off the face of the raburn building. turns out that's what it was. wha

i want to bring in canningman matt cartwright. he heard shots and heard people running. can you put this in perfect who might have been shooting and what you heard? >> the south side of the capitol on the second floor, just outside the speaker's lobby, there is a balcony where members can sit and talk, and that's exactly what i was doing with congressman jerry conly from northern florida. we were having a quiet discussion and all of a sudden we heard what put me in mind of what it sound like when you have the first salvo of a 21-gun absolute. it was ragged firing, so it wasn't all at once, but i want to tell teleyou, seemed like seven or eight shots, and it lasted less than a second. >> congressman matt cargo write, thank you, sir. i want to flip over peter. he just got on scene. what do you know? >> attraction i've been on scene since the lockdown was in effect at the buildings. it was very tense earlier, and we talked to people who are gathering the eye witnesses, start to go tell their stories to whom who just gathered, and authorities took those guys out of the crowd

in the meantime i would also like to get to congressman matt cartwright of pennsylvania joining us nowphone. sir, thank you very much for joining us. can you quickly tell us where you are, what you heard and what your thoughts are on what is exactly happening? >> right. well, we had just finished the first series of votes in the house. there is a balcony on the south side of the second floor of the capitol. that is right off of the speakers lobby. it's a place where members of congress can go and sit and chat. and i was doing just that with congressman jerry connolly from northern virginia. we were having a quiet chat. when all of the sudden it was -- oh, i would say on the order of seven or eight rapid fire gunshots that went off. and i did -- it did sound like gunshots. to me, it sounded like kind of the first of a 21 gun salute where they shoot off seven guns. except it was more ragged than that. they were not all at once. that's what it put me in mind of at first. i also thought if you've ever heard guns going off, i don't consider myself a ballistics expert, but it was clearly not

environment, a person who has spent much of his career defending the environment, representative matt cartwright joins us this evening. thank you for participating with the seek coalition. mr. cartwright: it's my pleasure, my dear friend and colleague from new york. it's almost hard to believe, i would say, that we are noting the one-year anniversary of the terrible storm we call hurricane sandy striking our nation's shores. it seems like no more than six or seven months ago that that all happened. maybe one of the reasons is that it was so horrific so damaging, so devastating that the harm continues. there are still families searching for a place to live. there are still americans still digging out from this problem, trying to salvage the situation for themselves and their families. and so it's almost hard to believe that it was a full year ago that this happened. this is a country that suffered so much in loss because of hurricane sandy. $25 billion in business losses, $50 billion in property damage. i come from pennsylvania and pennsylvania so far as it is from the seacoast, we still had $1 -