and we'll carry on talking to matt demick who is very close. i suspect still matt, to the thinking at the highest levels we are going to talk later on about the swift system. are you and i don't need to, don't want to talk about the specifics of how it does what it does. that's a different conversation with somebody else. however, why did it take so long? because they've been talking about this for the best part of what 5 days now. and it feels it was tortuous, almost cuz it seemed such an obvious thing to do. but it took them a long time. so i think there are several reasons for that, sir. one, when it comes to imposing sanctions on russia, the ideology is that the sanctions on russia should be punishing russia more than they're punishing ourselves. so when it comes to the swift system, the a purchase of gas and oil are through the exchange of currencies. oh is critical to our european partners, which is why they're there. so hesitant to press that button and eliminate swift. i think events have proven otherwise, and i think though, the all th