of the house, and they wanted nothing to do with donald trump and matt gaetz' stunt. as the evidence pours in against him, donald trump should be wondering how many republicans in the house might eventually vote for impeachment. every day it becomes more likely that impeachment will have at least some republican votes in the house of representatives, and donald trump's firewall in the united states senate that's supposed to save him from being removed from office seems to have a new crack it in every day. today it was senator john thune of south dakota who is mitch mcconnell's number two in the senate leadership. john thune said this about what is emerging from the impeachment investigation, quote, the picture coming out of it based on the reporting we've seen is yeah, i would say is not a good one. as donald trump's desperation deepens, he chose to put the trumpian word "perfect" in mitch mcconnell's mouth, which provoked mitch mcconnell to, in his polite senate way, call donald trump a liar. >> the president has said that you told him that his phone call with the uk

matt gaetz a member of the judiciary committee. he wants allowed to attend the interview last week. other members aren't allowed to attend. we can't see the transcript. he selectively leaks part of the transcripts and in the interviews no white house lawyers can be there. no agency lawyers can be there. the state department can't have lawyers there. minority aren't given subpoena authority. we can't get the witnesses we want to call. most importantly, it's all being done in the basement of the capitol where no one in the country can see based on an anonymous person that only adam schiff and his staff know who this person is who started this whole thing.

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talking to matt gaetz earlier, i know several republicans are planning to vote know.rollins said they shouldn't participate in what is a charade which will result in no greater equity. >> it's bizarre because the rules they set out for how the investigation will proceed only apply to two of the six committees that have been tasked investigating it. that means four of the committees can continue to act in secret without allowing any participation by the republicans. and for the other two committees, the rules they set out are all completely different from the rules set out for both the clinton impeachment inquiry and the nixon impeachment inquiry. in those the chairman of the committee and the ranging minority member acted jointly to issue subpoenas, figure out -- lou: the judiciary committee. >> here the intelligence committee, the chairman can act unilateralli'. to say chairman may i. to get the witnesses they want to talk to. lou: i want to go to colonel vintdman's testimony. i realize if ukraine pursued an investigation into the burisma energy it would result in us

matt gaetz exposing the hypocrisy of adam schiff.eeted this individual oh of a 2017 prank phone call between the house intel committee chairman and two russian radio host comedians posing as the former speaker of the ukrainian parliament. another what you see in that call record is the president of the united states use the full weight of his office to seek dirt on an opponent to interfere with our elections. you have a phone call where they are discussing the compromising the material on mr. trump. >> absolutely. >> obviously we would welcome a chance to get copies of those rorgsd. >> it's illegal and proper and a violation of his oath for the president to merely ask for foreign interference. lou: that's about as funny as it gets. congressman matt gaetz, great to have you with us. that is hilarious. for schiff to be able to stand up and even pretend to be outraged at the phone call between zelensky and president trump, it's absolutely laughable. >> it's just as laughable, the notion the ukraine transcript is what brought democrats t

. >> at the top of the show congressman matt gaetz will join us in a little bit who led that charge. i'm curious to talk with him on some of those points you're making. i want to ask you about something else an putting you on the spot i'm going to apologize but we're learning that lindsey graham, the senator a close ally of the president, at 3:00 this afternoon is introducing a resolution, he wants to call on the house to vote to formally introduce an impeachment inquiry. this seems to be another move by a republican ally to try to defend the president, garrett. can you tell us anything more about this or how you see this playing out politically here? >> i can only give you a little bit of informed speculation from having covered graham for as long as i have. this is someone who is close to the president and wants to keep that closeness and in doing so here on the impeachment issue, it's the kind of thing that might give him more latitude to criticize the president on his foreign policy decisions of with i graham has been vocal in complaining about. i could see this move being not es

matt gaetz is basically saying he has to be in there. he tried, he showed up, he wanted to sit in on the interview. their question whether he should be there in the first place. should he? who gets to be inside these interviews? >> the committee chairman decides what the rules are. matt gaetz is not on those committees that are handling the interviews. again, once you win the election at the midterm, you control the committee and you make the rules. these are the rules they are playing by. i think he will be on tv a lot, saying that he is aggrieved by this. we will see once we get the transcript. >> julie: okay. do you believe we are seeing cracks in the white house's refusal to cooperate in this? the white house has been sort of steadfast, not wanting certain people to testify. some might see that as trying to prevent the investigation for moving forward. >> in fact, democrats have said obstruction is one of the articles of impeachment that they may go forward. but they are having success issuing subpoenas to people who are prevented fr

matt gaetz he's doing a good job. i'm in california. when i call my congresswoman's office, the local office, they don't want to hear -- she's a democrat. it's just terrible in california. all these super leftist people they don't want to answer questions. they don't know i'm a republican. it they don't want to give you any information. i just feel that the public is being cut out of this deal number one. number two, trump did not do anything -- he did not commit a crime that's impeachable. he didn't commit any crime. i'm very upset about this. he was duel elected. -- duly elected. host: maple shade, new jersey. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. first of all i just want to commend the woman that just called from california about the impeachment. right on republicans for storming that room yesterday. but i want to talk about health care, john. i mainly want to address my comments to people that are on medicare right now. seniors, disabled veterans. i myself am a senior. one man called earlier and was

the man in charge of that disruption, matt gaetz from florida joins is next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: if you're to overturn a democratic election you should do it transparently and in the open. that might reassure people. if you think that you're not a conspiracy theorists. florida congressman adam schiff from burbank, california. today he was closed in closed-door impeachment hearings over the republican members of congress led by matt gaetz of florida. he demanded to be let inside. watch. >> behind those doors they intend to over throw the results of an american presidential election. we want to know what's going on. were going to go and see we can get inside.. let's see if we can get in. >> tucker: he and other members ultimately delayed today's hearing by about five hours. he joins us. thank you for coming on. what was the purpose? >> we had the audacity to want to know what was going on behind closed doors where democrats have engaged in a strategy of secret interviews, selective leaks, theatrical, weird performances of transcripts that never happened and lies about whistle-blowers. it's r

we have to be very proactive in terms of exposing this corruption. >> tucker: matt gaetz of florida, you very much. only wall street journal editorial board, also a new book out called, "resistance at all costs." she joins us tonight. you've spent a lot of time thinking about what is happening right now and almost running the predicate to it. what do you think is likely to happen? >> we are going forward and congressman gaetz made a really important point which is he was pointing out -- some people are pointed out that nancy pelosi hasn't pulled an authorization vote because she wanted to spare her members to do that. the dirty little secret is that it allows them to not have any rules. adam schiff can do this exactly the way he wants to do it. they can protest as they were just doing today. there is nothing they could do to stop it. the message has to get out. there are literally, his office did a calculation about how many millions of americans their elected representatives have not been allowed to see. they transcripts from any of these events have not been allowed to see. you hav

last word, matt gaetz. you've got about 20 seconds. >> the strong as evidence for me that ukraine was involved is from a court in the ukraine. a court in the ukraine found that there were improper actions by the ukraine to get involved. >> sean: caught in ukraine, determined that election interference took place. have their country against our elections. correct. checkmate. it's going to get interesting. buckle up. every republican better vote no on thursday. we are watching. when we come back, senator lindsey graham, newt gingrich, they react. saying pelosi will formalize the inquiry. the latest on the death of baghdadi and the corrupt media mob? their predictable, sick, twisted -- well, raving psychotic reaction straight ahead. you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? yeah. yeah, i could see that. for those who were born to ride, ther

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here with reaction political columnist matt lord and matt gaetz.z has ambitions to do this show one day and be the host. >> i'm, in sean. they will probably try to impeach me since it's not a crime. >> sean: i think they are trying that already. already taking jeff louder out at fake news cnn. they have been trying to take me out for 24 years. event actually they will be successful but whatever. i'm watching this though. it's just never ending lies. i have always known there was -- the media was abusively biased and corrupt. and that they lie and they have an agenda. this isn't the era of brokaw jennings and that hack dan rather. this is like just never ending lying and conspiracy theories area 51 rachel maddow, lie after lie after lie. they never admit they are wrong either, matt? >> one of the reasons why americans are tuning tout those networks you don't see cnn even breaking the top 25 news shows and rachel maddow is behind the top five lineup americans actually want the truth. before donald trump was even sworn into office the ladd left and al

he is interviewed by matt gaetz of florida. >> it seems as though you're making the argument that a country that is more socialist becomes more selfish. >> i think that is true and it is an irony in a way and there would profess to be that it is for someone else but yet in the end, it is driven by selfishness. >> watch tonight at 9:00 eastern on book tv on c-span two. on american history tv, at 6:00 p.m. eastern, if former u.s. service officer, on time as a hostage. >> what does it say in your culture that permits you to detain a tat -- guest against his will? >> ron awakens political affairs director, and -- ronald reagan's political affairs director. >> reagan just cleans up in new hampshire. it was such a mentor that it is a good thing we won by such a big margin because we spent most of our money. >> explore our nation's past on american history tv, every weekend on c-span-3. casket of representative elijah cummings arrived at the capitol thursday morning for a ceremony for lying in state, coming the first african-american to do show -- do so. , includinge made nancy pelosi, chuck schum

that rule may nt apply in this case, but again, focusing on schiff is a way for republicans like matt gaetz to attack the messenger, schiff, and build support with the base appeared to i would put your knowledge of the rules up against anyone else. >> i live with this. >> shannon: we are grateful you know all of the ins and outs and will keep us updated throughout the whole thing as it plays out on capitol hill. thank you, chad. breaking tonight from "the washington post," after army colonel alexander vindman heard the call with the ukrainian, president trump, he reported he told a white house aide, and the post is think i might be a movie transcript of the call to a highly classified server. "the new york times" says vindman was able to make edits to the transcript, which is now publicly let's bring in republican senator marsha blackburn who sits on the judiciary committee and may eventually be a juror in a trial if the house goes to impeachment. >> good to be with you. congratulations on two years >> shannon: thank you very much. we always love having you back with us. we hope that will c

joining me is congressman matt gaetz. it's an extraordinary moment to see what adam schiff is doing and getting away with. i have got to cop plummet you and the republicans in our conference. you stood together in your effort to censure adam schiff for his scurrilous conduct, and that's a great healthy sign for the republican party. i want to begin by congratulating you. it's good to see cohesion in support of this president in the republican caucus in the house of representatives. >> we are going through an unprecedented process when you look at how secretive and unfair and corrupt with adam schiff making up evidence, leaking i have, then not allowing the evidence to have scrutiny or review by republicans. the only reason adam schiff is behaving this way is because the evidence isn't any good and doesn't justify any impeachment. democrats did all they could to highlight taylor said there were dual tracts of foreign policy. and when he texted that to ambassador sondland. he said no this is not aquid pro quo. the president

joining us, matt gaetz, you are still a member of the freedom caucus, right? >> that's right.ou: every one of the republican conference's leaders joined in with the democrats. what is going on in your party? this is bringing back the stench of the paul ryan years. >> i completely disagree with the democrat led resolution to condemn the president on syria. they are the same voices that wanted to topple assad that caused this problem turkey. erdogan has seen his approval rating shoot through the roof because he promised the turks he will resettle 2 million to 3 million refugees back into this portion of the buffer zone. so a regime change war backed by the war lobby caused the migration of people. don't let the republicans off the hook. there were a lot of republicans that supported the obama policies of regime change in syria and libya. here is my question. why are republicans or any americans so surprised when donald trump does exactly what he said he was going to do. he said in the campaign and as president he would end these wars. lou: my question to you was what's going on

he is interviewed by republican congressman matt gaetz of florida. reppo gaetz it seems you're making the argument that a country that becomes more socialist becomes more selfish. is for theeverything other man, for someone else, and in the end it is driven by selfishness. tv oncer: watch on but c-span2. president trump awarded the medal of freedom to roger penske, an entrepreneur and former professional auto racer. the event took place in the oval office of the white house.

is that why we saw matt gaetz storm the scif today in order to delay it? was it a reaction to that damnidamn ing revelation? >> it certainly seems to be, katy. i can tell you the head of the freedom caucus getting some questions on reporters on the substance of the matter says basically i don't care. his response was unless bill taylor was deposed publicly, unless he was in some sort of public setting, a public hearing, that what he said, what he told house investigators behind closed doors does not matter. so that is sort of the convoluted and conflicted response that we're getting from republicans who, by the way, still have not defended president trump by and large on the merits. they have not defended his interactions with his ukrainian counterpart. >> philippe, you used to work at the state department. take politics out of it. i mean partisanship politics out of it. i agree with democrats more than republicans or vice versa. and just tell me what it says to you to have a diplomat go and testify in front of lawmakers to say that the state department wa

then, florida republican matt gaetz, member of the house judiciary committee showed up and was probably told to leave by adam schiff, causing something of a kerfuffle. today's deposition is limited to members of the house oversight, intelligence, and foreign affairs committees only. no matt, something that is ruffling feathers among a few key republicans. >> 423 murmurs of congress who represent three quarters of a million people who don't know what frankly is going on and at some point they're going to be -- it looks like they're going to be asked to vote on this and after seems to me exactly the wrong way to do this. >> so fiona hill left her white house position this past july. before president trump's now-infamous call with ukraine's president. we know she wasn't ready to that call, though cheated work with two other top diplomats at the very center of the impeachment bro. that's marie yovanovitch and gordon sondland. he is slated to appear here on capitol hill on thursday. looking ahead, there are four more officials slated to testify this week and also four documents that have bee

. >> today, florida republican matt gaetz tweeted: today i filed an ethic complain against schiff for de distorts potus' cl with zelensky, and lying in russia collusion, schiff must be held accountable. i agree with that. will we ever find out what is going on inside secret impeachment bunker, what about that whistleblower? who is it? with me, rick crawford, welcome back. >> good to be back. kennedy: who is the whistleblower. >> co i do not know. kennedy: who do you think? >> we don't -- >> we don't want to disclose, i am just having fun with you. this is all deadly sere yeusms impeachmenserious.impeachment ii don't think that democrats have a handle on that, if they had we would have a formal impeachment inquiry resolution passed and ready to go. but what shaping in secret -- what is happening in shake rit.. >> key word is secret, it is not consistent with any level of due process, we talk about the president not above the law, i agree with that, but he search he is not below the law, the same thing applies to speaker pelosi, she is not above the law for them to conduct themselves th

>> matt gaetz isn't afraid to speak his mind.ange impeachment inquiry not because it's just behind closed doors and no one can reveal anything about it. normally impeachment is conducted by the judiciary committee. a lot of your viewers will remember it was the judiciary committee that conducted the impeachment of bill clinton. this is being done by the intel committee in principle giving an excuse for keeping things more tightly under wraps. a lot of this information is not classified. i'm not aware of classified information that is being spoken about in there. so i think that matt gaetz is saying something on a lot of people's minds. wait a minute. you are conducting an impeachment inquiry to remove the president of the united states, elected in 2016, but the public and the people's representatives are not allowed to see it? that doesn't fly. >> sandra: you have had a lot of the "wall street journal" editorial page writing about the secrecy of this ongoing investigation. just a bit more of the reporting of matt gaetz walking in

he is interviewed by republican congressman matt gaetz of florida. reppo gaetz it seems you're making the argument that a country that becomes more socialist becomes more selfish. is for theeverything other man, for someone else, and in the end it is driven by selfishness. tv oncer: watch on but c-span2. president trump awarded the medal of freedom to roger penske, an entrepreneur and former professional auto racer. the event took place in the oval office of the white house. pres. trump: thank you very much. a very special day. today i am delighted to present our nation's highest civilian honor to a giant of american industry, entrepreneurship, and auto racing. the legendary roger penske. roger, i want to congratulate you on receiving the presidential medal of freedom. [applause] pres. trump: with us today is vice president mike pence and many terrific members of my cabinet. thank you all for being here. they are all fans of roger's. catherine, you have been married to her how many years? roger: 46 years. pres. trump: that's pretty amazing. you look

argument republicans have been making about the closed nature of this process and a stunt that florida matt gaetz have been trying to run the last week or so. to sit in for these depositions and despite not being members of any of the committee involved. he brought significant amount of backup. none of whom are on that committee. they spoke in the basement where the room is to the press on the outside before marching inside and attempting to take over the deposition. this deposition will happen at some point, it is delayed for now, for us, who wanted to hear from laura cooper of the last link in the chain here. the military aide held up, cooper just by showing up became an interesting witness. she was the first department of defense witness. we heard from private citizens, formal officials, just by showing up here, cooper shows a little bit of a crack in administration spiral all. we'll have to wait to hear what she says. >> republican house leadership did know that this sit-in was going to happen. did they have nothing to say about this? >> not only did they know, one member leadership took part

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he is interviewed by republican congressman matt gaetz from florida. >> it seems like you are making the argument that a country that is more socialist is becoming more selfish. >> i think that is true. it is an irony. they will profess that everything is for someone else but in the end, it is driven by selfishness. words on c-span two. >> president trump was asked about media reports that the justice department has opened a criminal investigation into the origins of the russian probe. he took questions from reporters as he departed the white house for south carolina as he discussed criminal justice reform. president trump: hello, everyone. hello. the stock market is doing very well. the economy is booming. we have a new record in sight, could happen even today, it could be a new stock market record, it will have been 118 times we have broken the record. jobs are phenomenal. we are doing well in syria and with turkey and with everyone else we are dealing with. we have secured the oil. we have a lot of oil. we have secured the oil. we have a couple of people that came knocking and we

joining us now, florida congressman matt gaetz. congressman, good to see you. u filed an ethics complaint, sean spicer, also. matt, just what we know. compromised, matt. we have a compromised schiff. you pop up with an ethics complaint. compromised whistleblower with a political agenda. now even worse allegations out there. >> you're right. this is not a crime by our president. it is a setup by the deep state. the same deep state that told us that president trump was engaged in a criminal conspiracy. the same deep state that had an insurance policy against the people of this great country electing donald trump. what's different about the ukrainian knockoff sequel is adam sdhifrns has violated the rules of the house by -- adam schiff has violated the rules of the house by making representations to the american people that were false. rule 23 of the house of representatives code of conduct says we are not permitted to engage in activities that bring discredit on the house. i can think of nothing that has brought more discredit on the house of representatives than

for a rebuttal to matt gaetz's analogy, we go now to king leonides: >> this is stupid! cheers and applause ) >> stephen: gaetz played to the camera when he was asked about his friendship with the president. >> i love the president so much, i might never love another president again. >> stephen: wow, that's quite a love story. they're like romeo and juliet, except everyone else wants to kill themselves. ( laughter ) ( applause ) apparently, the president knew about the stunt ahead of time, and today he tweeted: "thank you to house republicans for being tough, smart, and understanding in detail the greatest witch hunt in american history. it has been going on since long before i even got elected-- the insurance policy! a total scam!" (as trump) "thank you, guys. you're like the sons i wish i had instead of the ones i do." ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) the g.o.p. is saying, "we need to know what's going on in there," but here's the thing, the 47 republicans on the committees leading the investigation have access to the closed-door depositions." and republican lawyers

congressman matt gaetz took a small stand against impeachment yesterday and instead of arguing with himthe left decided to attack him on the basis of his skin color. that actually happened live on television. one of the most famous people in america did that out loud. he responded to that. the exchange tells you about the modern left. he will join us abou after the . ♪ here, it all starts with a simple... hello! -hi! how can i help? a data plan for everyone. everyone? everyone. let's send to everyone! [ camera clicking ] wifi up there? -ahhh. sure, why not? how'd he get out?! a camera might figure it out. that was easy! glad i could help. at xfinity, we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. ♪ >> tucker: overturning a democratic election and impeaching the president is a serious matter. yesterday congressman matt gaetz and several other members of congress occupied a closed door impeachment hearing. they insisted its proceedings are to be public a list of the members of the house representatives. of debating that question, de

no, i'm still in character as matt gaetz! >> jon: put it down!stephen: congress still wants to hear from the original whistleblower who started this whole thing. and they're taking every precaution. in fact, house democrats are considering masking the identity of the whistleblower from trump's g.o.p. allies in congress. hold on. the whistleblower is defending democracy and gets to wear a mask. is it this guy? ( cheers and applause ) thank you, cap! i don't know who it is. i don't know who it is. the democrats are also considering having the whistleblower alter his voice, possibly with modification technology. "possibly with modification technology." what other way would they possibly do it? "president trump has betrayed our nation's core ideals and turned his back on all that we stand for! he must be removed from office before democracy erodes beneath our feet. i say this not just as a patriot but as a member of the ♪ lollipop guild the holly pop guild ♪ the lollipop guild ♪ i represent the inspector general ♪ and we'd like to go and drag your as

yesterday, congressman matt gaetz and several other republican members of congress occupied a closedachment hearing. they insisted its proceedings are to be public at least to other members of the house representatives. instead of debating that question, the democratic party had another angle. gaetz and his allies were wrong because of how they were born, because of their skin color. watch this. >> looking at these members coming and you saw a handful of woman, other than that a lot of white men and this is not what america looks like right now. >> watch those republicans, those white guys, middle-aged boring, nerdy looking white guys walked on those steps. it was pathetic. >> this looks like a clan group that assembled outside of the jail try to get the sheriff to let them and so they can deliver their own justice. >> what happened yesterday was a high school prank by a bunch of 50-year-old white men. >> tucker: the last person we saw there was california congresswoman jackie speier, earlier today congressman gates responded to her on msnbc. congressman gaetz joins us tonight. you r

here is my theory, matt gaetz. congressman, sir. it's really simple.ge with sharpton, that was a classic. and i will say this. we should play it next time you are on. to me, all they are doing is helping the president. the president's right, they are doing nothing. they supported funding a wall in the second term of obama, but they won't do it just because they hate trumpets so much. i really believe if he cured cancer, they would impeach him over that. speak what i can tell you after talking to the president today, he understands the fight that we are in, and it is not a fight about him, it's about the voters who put i him in office. what you see is an attack on the democracy of our country itself, because they believe that their judgment, when they huddle up in washington, d.c., can be substituted for the voters. and by the way, how is adam schiff even chairman of a committee in the congress right now? he lied for two and a half years. >> sean: he's lying again! >> before we allow him to have any more authority at all. that guy should be gone, he sho

republican congressman matt gaetz kicked out of a hearing room by democrats yesterday. today and he will join us with his story. >> this is proof that democrats can't win a fair election. they can't win a fair debate and they absolutely cannot run a fair impeachment inquiry because they are stacking the deck. with my annuity, i know there is a guarantee. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org. when you're looking for answers, it's good to have help. because the right information, at the right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering seven things every medicare supplement should have. it's yours free just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free, and there's no obligation. you see, medicare

matt gaetz is holding himself up here as historic? >> we were like the 300 standing in the breach to try to stop the radical left from storming over our democracy. i think we made the point that president trump deserves the process. >> did the president tell you to do this? >> no, i haven't chatted with the president, though i suspect he might have a view he'll want to share after today. >> we are going to go with the house democrats in the hopes they'll change this procedure. if they don't, who knows what will happen. >> that's chairman matt gaetz. there are the foreign affairs committee, the intel committee, the oversight committee. they have 58 democrats, 48 republicans. they have the right to be in there. they make the argument this is impeachment. we want a different process. this is not just oversight. that's a fair question for people to debate. but this idea they have no rights and they have no presence is horsepucky, correct? >> absolutely. a quarter of their conference is allowed to sit in on any of these depositions, hear t

joining me now is congressman matt gaetz of florida.a republican member of the judiciary committee. hey, congressman, you will be interested to know that social media, you've not yet said a word, is already blowing up. barbara by way of illustration is upset i would have you on so you can quote/unquote lie again as you always do. and then there's freedom and freedom says, why, matt,ing are you going on this television program that promotes dnc talking points? why, matt, why? anyway, i'm glad you're here. >> i will put barbara down as a maybe. i'm glad to be hiere too. that you provide a platform for these questions facing our country. >> you heard my commentary. what kind of precedent would we be sitting for future elections if the president's request for foreign assistance in our elections are normalized? >> i have to reject the premise of the question. i think the president's context for these discussions isn't forward leaning into the next election. he's attempting to slisz it ukraine's support to find out what happened in the last e

. >> because of a prank call that lasted 8 minutes, matt gaetz tweeted a portion of the call, enougho show what he calleds democratic hypocrisy when it comes to asking foreign countries for political dirt. on the call, to russian shock jocks are posing as a former speaker view ukraine parliament telling democratic congressman adam schiff thathe they have pictures of president trump from when he came to russia in 2013 for the miss universe pageant the dj claimed that they had a weird russian model and singer and a russian journalist talking about the photos. >> so you have recordings where they are discussing the compromising material on mr. trump? >> absolutely. >> obviously would welcome a chance to get copies of those recordings. >> it certainly appeared that adam schiff was eager to get to get the recordings. a member of his staff reportedly continued communicating with the pranksters trying to get the damaging charlie. as congressman gaetz points out, it appears schiff now has a different view of foreign help. >> it's illegal and improper and a violation of oath and in violation

matt gaetz, 20 seconds. >> the strongest evidence to me that ukraine was involved is from a court in the ukraine. a court in the ukraine found there were improper actions by ukraine to get involved in a u.s. election and that's improper. >> sean: it happened in their country against our elections. correct. checkmate. it's going to get into interesting. buckle up. when we come back, senator lindsey graham. newt gingrich. they react to pelosi saying the house will vote. and the corrupt media mob their prickable, sick, twisted, ugly, psychotic reaction straight ahead. when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half. just like that. shipstation. the #1 choice of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get 2 months free. to pu

there is one thing to have folks in the house like matt gaetz and other folks charge the skiff, but thereanother thing to have folks like john thune and those in the senate to criticize the president. there is no vocal support yet. there might be at some point but there is no vocal wall of support among senators for this president yet. and if you are the president, that is what you ant to see. there are some fear here. debu dana said he's trying to speak to the base but if mitt romney becomes john thune and those in the senate who start to express problems with what the president is alleged to have done, that is coming out of the depositions, he's in a real bind here. so that is why i think you see him on the one hand taking to twitter all of the times and he sounds confident but in reality he's afraid. >> in new york today two of rudy giuliani's associates, igor fruman and lev parnas pled not guilty to the charges leveled against them in connection with rudy giuliani's efforts in ukraine and other issues. what did we learn from their appearance today? >> we learned some weird stuff. to b

i don't want to see matt gaetz in a pleated skirt. i just don't.a certain degree to which these guys are going to end up having to make a decision. do you want to get the political backlash that hits donald trump over and over again because of his actions or at some point, do you want to try to make the case to your voters in your state or your district that you're there for them, that you're there for -- you're there for the values of your state and the needs of your state or the needs of your district? but right now they've all defined themselves as donald trump's acolytes. and donald trump's water carriers, and i think the more difficult his circumstances are, the more a few will break away, but the early birds are going to get the benefit from this more than the guys who wait until the last minute when the building's on fire. >> rick wilson gets tonight's last word. rick, jonathan, thank you both for joining us. that is tonight's last word. msnbc's coverage of tonight's democratic debate starts right now. ♪ >>> well,

matt gaetz, all of them. i can name 25 incredible people. they wanted subpoenas to investigate all of the corruption that they found, horrible krowption. paul d horribling corruption. paul ryan would say slow down. come back next week. she hands them out like it's cookies. judge jeanine: why do you think that is? president trump: maybe a difference in philosophy? maybe they don't do it because they think it's bad for the country. what she is doing is bad for the country. they committed a fraud. they made up a phoney conversation and got caught. the reason they got caught because they never thought i would release the transcript of my conversation with the president of ukraine. because it's something you don't want to do. weed called up ukraine, mike pompeo. called up ukraine to get permission to do it. they thought it was even unusual request, but they said sure. they probably look at us and say what's going on, ways that all about. because i would have to do that. not legally have to. but i would feel badly doing that. everybody that speaks

bridget:hat's right, we saw florida congressman matt gaetz come to her defense, saying it was unfair. it does raise questions about which party is going to control her seat moving forward. there is goi to be a special ection to replace her. laura: she was a rising star of the freshman democrats. how much of a loss is she? bridge i think she is a pretty big loss. she was a leader of her freshman class. s.e was a co-representative in leadership meeti she hasked about wanting to be a voice to bridge the ideological divisions we see in the caucus.s she coom a swing district. she said throughout her campaign that she is somebody that wants to work with th sides and she tried to take the message to congress. seems like it will be a lost for her class in terth of losing leader they had. laura: but presumably it might not be the end of her political career. bridget: that's right, she said in a video today that he wants to fight against the situation she is faced with with these explicit photos online. she sounded concerned about whether her situation woulddi ourage other people, particularly

matt gaetz is filing an ethics complaint in the house? come on. >> what we are doing is everything we possibly can given the conditions that we are in. and the reality is we are fighting this tooth and nail. i was down there in the scif today trying to fight it in the scif. you are not going to hear reports about that. i talked to someone who was there yesterday. we are in there fighting this fight in a pitch battle and you won't hear about it all the time because we don't get the allies in the left-stream media that programs our colleagues on the other side of the aisle have. make no mistake, we are unified in fighting this and we'll fight this. i look at what i see happening physically. you guys have the ability to speak. no one has taken your tongue from your mouths. you may be bound by some rules that the dimms don't like to follow. who are you to risk this constitution salt republic and hold your -- play by these ridiculous political rules that are artificial and absolutely undercut everything you stand for. >> i have been saying we