congressman matt gaetz, here, sunday morning futures. ♪ maria: welcome back, public hearings kicking this week in impeachment inquiry against president trump, meanwhile house republicans have submitted a list of 8 witnesses they would like to hear from, among them hunter biden as well as the whistleblower who sparked the whole thing, the ranking republican on the house intelligence committee devin nunes arguing in a letter to chairman adam schiff, president trump should be afforded an opportunity to confront his accusers writes devin nunes but schiff already ruled out an opinion by the whistleblower also saying this, the inquiry is not and would not serve as a vehicle to undertake the same sham investigations into the biden or 2016 that the president pressed ukraine to conduct for his personal political benefit, the president meanwhile insisting he's already cleared by the white house's rough law in july call with ukrainian's president. >> read the transcript, it's all about the transcript, they're having people i never even heard some of the people, i don't know who they are and by

now, matt gaetz nailed it. by the way, he did a great job by blowing up the star chamber a couple of weeks ago and exposing all of this. but i think it is really important to do what congressman gaetz did just did, narrow it down to exactly what it is. on its worst day for the president, you have a nonconsummated wrongdoing. at worst, so what do you have? the money was released, which it was. so finally, what do we have that is on trial? what we have on trial is the state of mind of the president. because there was no consummated action, because money was released. >> sean: they never mentioned money. never mentioned it. >> money was released. because now you have a trial, on the state of mind of the president, you have to allow that state of mind to be in focus, which means you have to bring the biden issue into play. you have to bring the corruption into play. and let all of that play out. but as congressman gaetz said, if you don't have the authority to call witnesses like hunter biden and joe biden, to the

gregg jarrett along with florida congressman matt gaetz. greg, you identified all these laws. all this information shows up in your book, great job, and people should read it. but here's the question:did biden break the law? >> oh, there's plenty of presidents here for the department of justice to open an investigation, a criminal into joe biden and hunter biden. they may have actually already done it but principally the foreign corrupt practices act. you can't use extortion and bribery to coerce or influence a foreign government into taking official action that benefits you. that's the quid pro quo and the best evidence of it is the fire prosecutor who said that's exactly what joe biden did, and now these new documents unveiled by john solomon implicate hunter biden in this as well, so there's compelling evidence to justify department of justice investigation. if they don't do it i suggest congress do it, lindsey graham, chairman of the judiciary committee, should open investigation. >> sean: let me put up on the screen, matt gaetz, willie brown, former high-profile official

first, joining us with reaction, matt gaetz, minority whip steve scalise. i will go and i will concede to the leader in the senate over you, congressman matt gaetz, you are getting close, you are, getting good. he steve scalise, there is not one thing that these people needed to testify except theirev opinion about what they thought of the transcript that never talked about aid, that the president of ukraine said never felt pressure, that they never did anything and they still got the aid. why are we here? >> it really begs the question because ultimately, they are trying to remove a president or daving a better foreign policy than barack obama and joe biden. in fact, you even had vindman today saying that it was president trump, not president obama, who sold the javelin missiles ukraine so they could defend themselves against russia. and take otherr action. so what is this really all about? i think we know what this is all about. the democrats have no candidate for president, and they know the only way to stop donald trump from getting reelected is to impe

he's not entitled to identity protection whatsoever. >> sean: matt gaetz, keep kicking. keep doing it. every day. thank you. when we come back, donald trump jr. his dad was talking about him at the rally. he reacts to the democrats' impeachment mania. lawrence jones from tonight's trump rally in kentucky. he asked trump supporters what they think about the madness. straight ahead. . good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard. you might want to clean that up, girl. excuse us. when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you built with customizable coverage. -and i'm gonna -- -eh, eh, eh. -donny, no. -oh. -and i'm gonna -- -eh, eh, eh. it's been reported that there's a cyberattack on business every 39 seconds. ouch. i don't even want to think about it. comcast business has a solution. we go beyond fast with a cloud-based securi

tonight gop congressman matt gaetz is here. so is hogan gidley from the white house.arter page, dan bongino and john solomon. it's show time and here is my open. they call it an impeachment inquiry. they said it would be bipartisan. it didn't start out that way. in fact the only thing that was bipartisan was the vote to not go forward. but after two weeks and 7 witnesses where the goal was to convince republicans and the nation of the evidence of an impeachable offense, adam schiff and his gang of political malcontents failed polic fail d. this weeker witness indicated they heard nothing from the president that would prove he committed an impeachable offense. >> the word bribery doesn't appear in that. youer in used the word bribery or bribe to explain president trump's conduct. >> no, sir. >> colonel vine man you haven't either? >> that's correct. >> i want to start with the july 25 call between president trump and president zelensky. you were on that call and there was no mention of withholding aid on the call. >> that's correct. >> there was no quid pro quo. >> cor

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the title totally justifies itself. >> sean: i'll ask you the same question i ask matt gaetz, you have to bifurcate a real quit and a pro and a quo with joe. >> it's a big part of the book, we've been talking about it for three years. i was in the hot seat for two years over unsolicited phone call button literally millions of dollars to the son of the vice president and that is before we even start talking about china, that's before we start talking about romania, even the democrat witnesses say they have no idea what experience why he's in there. >> sean: he said none, why did you think they paid you millions? >> i don't know. in his well prepped interview with abc, he didn't even know why and he knew the question was coming for weeks. we got nothing, we don't know, there's nothing inappropriate but they are trying again, they are desperately latching onto the russia delusion that they tried to sell the american people the schiff show. i'm watching this thing and i'm like i can't tell if these are our witnesses or there is because if this is their star witness and their next star witn

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no, i'm still in character as matt gaetz! ( piano riff ) >> jon: put it down! congress still wants to hear from the original whistleblower who started this whole thing. and they're taking every precaution. in fact, house democrats are considering masking the identity of the whistleblower from trump's g.o.p. allies in congress. hold on-- the whistleblower is defending democracy and gets to wear a mask. is it this guy? ( cheers and applause ) the democrats-- thank you, cap! i don't know who it is. i don't know who it is. the democrats are also considering having the whistleblower alter his voice, possibly with modification technology. "possibly with modification technology." what other way would they possibly do it? ( cheers and applause ) ( high pitched voice ) "president trump has betrayed our nation's core ideals and turned his back on all that we stand for! he must be removed from office before democracy erodes beneath our feet. i say this not just as a patriot, but as a member of the ♪ lollipop guild the lollipop guild ♪ the lollipop guild ( laughter ) ( che

on one side of the aisle you have matt gaetz. you're going to have jim jordan, both pit balls.ou're going to have doug collins of georgia, ranking member, who's thinking about running for the senate. so it is going to be political theater on steroids and i have to say this -- i respect jerry nadler, but he's not adam schiff, and if you look at the corey lewandowski hearing, chairman nadler let it get out of hand and i hope it doesn't happen with the house judiciary nap will only benefit president trump. >> jennifer, if the white house legal team turns down these invitations the democrats will really have the ball more than they do so already. why wouldn't the president at least send a lawyer to be there in that room? >> well, that's why i think that he will, because, you know, that gives them the opportunity to ask questions and, again, kind of try to change the focus, muddy the waters. i don't think they will let the democrats have what will be more smooth sailing towards an impeachment vote. i think they will try to muck it up a little bit at least, and even though matt gaetz

and matt gaetz is to adam schiff, "you're going to have someone come in here and remove me?"no, you're going to remove yourself." so the first ten or 11 minutes is this political food fight going on in the committee about who is able to be there and ask questions. keep in mind that members of the oversight and the traditiona jul committees can sit in but not asked questions for those under the purview of members of the intelligence committee, and those are the committees having open hearings next week. the other thing i should tell you about fiona hill, she spent ten hours in that deposition on the 14th of october. it was pretty long. a lot of people said she was brought into the administration because of her expertise on russia. i think there is now a dearth of policy experts in the administration because of the expertise that she brought on that particular issue here. one of the concerns that she expressed was this "irregular channel" that we keep hearing about in diplomatic circles, about rudy giuliani and ambassador to the european union, ordinance online, to do with ukra

it's jim jordan, matt gaetz, lee zeldin. mark meadows. 12 guys.ch, are you going to fight for the president who has been chosen by 63 million americans or lecture him on fake conservatives like mitt romney. gregg: nobody on the right voted for the impeachment inquiry. 2/3 super majority in the senate to remove the president. but we played a sound bite of president trump attacking adam schiff. that's easy to do since he's one of the most devious if not insincere, i.e., lying members of congress. schiff wanted the whistleblower to testify it in was learned schiff had been working with the whistleblower before the complaint was filed. now schiff wants anonymity. nowhere in the whistleblower law is a whistleblower entitled to or guaranteed the right to anonymity. it doesn't exist. >> this individual isn't a whistleblower and this isn't an impeachment. this is an operative placed in the white house by john brennan who voted for the communist party before he joined the characteristics a. he voted for the communist party candidate, gus hall. he worked fo

it's jim jordan, matt gaetz, lee zeldin. mark meadows. 12 guys.ch, are you going to fight for the president who has been chosen by 63 million americans or lecture him on fake conservatives like mitt romney. gregg: nobody on the right voted for the impeachment inquiry. 2/3 super majority in the senate to remove the president. but we played a sound bite of president trump attacking adam schiff. that's easy to do since he's one of the most devious if not insincere, i.e., lying members of congress. schiff wanted the whistleblower to testify it in was learned schiff had been working with the whistleblower before the complaint was filed. now schiff wants anonymity. nowhere in the whistleblower law is a whistleblower entitled to or guaranteed the right to anonymity. it doesn't exist. >> this individual isn't a whistleblower and this isn't an impeachment. this is an operative placed in the white house by john brennan who voted for the communist party before he joined the characteristics a. he voted for the communist party candidate, gus hall. he worked fo

joining us, congressman matt gaetz. have to ask you, i saw absolutely nothing, nothing the transcript. nothing in the testimony of these two so-called star witnesses. how much longer will the democrats keep up this nonsensical ex traf -- extravag. >> why they are not focused only reducing prescription drug prices or drug problems in our neighborhoods. after seeing the two star witness, it's no wonder that schiff kept them locked in the basement. they never met the president, they had no direct knowledge of the phone call. even mr. taylor when he met with the ukrainians there was no mention of conditional with the aid. the president did nothing wrong. i don't think you will see polling change as a consequence of these hearings. democrats have to ask themselves how much longer will their leadership put their membership through this ridiculous charade. lou: tomorrow the former ambassador marie yovanovich, ambassador to ukraine, will it be more of the same? >> yes. i watched the first two hours of the testimony yesterday an

[inaudible conversations] on "after words" our weekly author interview program with matt gaetz of floridainterviewed a republican senator of kentucky, the case against socialism. some of the discussion. but you will have to have rationing. they don't seem care about your hyper placement. it's directed towards their ideological concerns bring it seems as though you're making the argument that a country more socialist becomes more selfish. i think that is true and i think it's an irony in a way because they would profess to be for the other man and everything for something else and in the end it is true and by selfishness and driven by elite in their society and they consume and acumen lay power and money and homes and everything else all based on the cronyism of their system. >> to watch the rest of this interview and divide more episodes "after words", visit our website booktv.org and click on the "after words" tap at the top of the page. >> here are the current best selling nonfiction books topping the list is triggered, donald trump junior's argument that the left is using political cor

. >> on "after words," our weekly author interview program, republican congressman matt gaetz interviewed republican rand paul of kentucky about his new book, "the case against socialism." here's some of their discussion. >> if i'm going to be a successful capitalist and i sell something, i'm not caring at r about my desires. i have to care about everything you want if you're a consumer, so everything's focused outwards towards trying to get you to accept to buy either my services or my product. but if i'm a socialist, i really am not caring too much about popular opinion or pleasing a consumer. in fact, you know, when we socialize things like health care, they just say, well, yeah, everybody's going to get it, you'll no longer be bankrupt, no longer have to worry about your bills, but you'll have to have rationing. it's directed more towards their ideological concerns of how -- >> so how does that drive selfishness? it seems as though you're making the argument that a country that is more socialist becomes more selfish. >> yes. i think that is true, and i think it's an irony in a way bec

question the administration officials testifying before a democratically controlled house, congressman matt gaetz. good to see you again. >> we have the america first president that we voted for. wee have the american last impeachment strategy. they put american workers last who would like to see the usmca ratified. farmers who would like to see the trade deal with china being undermined by these impeachment hearings. i am eager to get this through our system and on to an election where i'm confident that regular americans who don't give a darn about impeachment investigations will give republicans back control of the congress and the white house. and this is an argument that we have successfully made. if you look at polling that's come out from a.p. and abc news sunday. half the country or more believe this impeachment is politically motivated and unfair to the president, and the country is right about that. trish: it may be politically motivated, but it's not going to help the party overall. if i were a democratic strategist. i would be saying wait a minute here. average americans in states tha

mark: it's been a pleasure it matt gaetz, thanks. see you next time on "life, liberty and levin". ♪ sunday." ♪ i'm abby hornacek. welcome to "fox nation"'s american patriots month we're giving you a look at all original content you could see on fox nation in november, they honor our country, the values it is built on and heroes to protect it, if you seen up to fox nation now you will see it all, including great from the start. >> i realize how much i love history. >> he makes his path come to life. >> i can relate to george washington's bravery. i look at mount rushmore, what they knew is what you should understand. >> it is brian kilmeade like you have never seen before. >> to give you detail, live this stuff. >> america great from the start, streef istream is live saturdayr 16 on "fox nation." >> a sneak peak of america great from the start, brian kilmeade steps off the couch to bring his commentary to the life stage and provide his perspective on some of america's most influential figures, he will join me from his studio to tell u

also joining me now, matt gaetz, member of the house judiciary committee. good to have you with us as well today. i want to put up one of the new pieces of information that we got today. this is from catherine. she says, i sat down with ambassador taylor. the white house was not likely to change its policy on ukraine except in the event that the president thought that biden was going to be a critical rival. that might push them to change his policy on ukraine. your thoughts on that and on the big picture tonight. >> matt: i think that time and again you will see them testifying. they have a substantive policy disagreement with the administration, the administration that they themselves were a part of. you see pushback on any administration that tries to change things up. president trump has a different way of interacting with other countries. he has a different style. you will see testimony consistent from what you'll hear from kent, jovanovic taylor. >> martha: as we were just talking about, that becomes the central question. you talked about the way the p

tonight gop congressman matt gaetz is here. so is hogan gidley from the white house.bongino and john solomon. it's show time and here is my open. they call it an impeachment

he's interviewed by republican congressman matt gaetz of florida."after words" is a weekly interview program with relevant guest hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> host: senator paul you're one of the most interesting people in american politics and especially in the republican party. i was a fan of yours long before i got the chanceo

mark: it's been a pleasure it matt gaetz, thanks.liberty and l chris: i'm chris wallace. it's one year til election day, and a bitter fight over the impeachment of president trump divides the country and congress. ♪ >> the resolution is adopted without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. >> democrats are trying to impeach the president because they are scared they cannot defeat him at the ballot box. chris: a party-line vote sets the stage for open hearings on impeachment and gives house intelligence committee chair adam schiff broad powers. >> i do not take any pleasure in the events that have made this process necessary. >> you can't impeach the president who did nothing wrong. chris: we'll discuss

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. >> what was actually said inside the room as republican congressman matt gaetz tried to insert himself into the hearing -- please listen to this because it's part of the official transcript and it makes for interesting reading. adam schiff says mr. gaetz, you're not permitted to be in the room. gaetz says, i'm on the judiciary committee. schiff responds, the judiciary committee is not part of this hearing. gaetz: i thought the judiciary committee had jurisdiction over impeachment. schiff: mr. gaetz, you're not permitted to be in the room. please leave. then republican congressman jim jordan jumps in. mr. chairman, really? schiff: yes, really. gaetz: you're going to include members of congress on committees that have roles of impeachment. gaetz: take your statement to the press. they do you know good here, so please absent yourself gaetz you're going to have someone remove me from the hearing? schiff: you're going to remove yourself, gaetz. jordan jumps in. mr. gaetz is going to stay and listen to the testimony. schiff: mr. gates, you're going to leave the room. then a short time later

in the words of congressman jim jordan and matt gaetz, this person had, quote, no firsthand knowledge. so that was one argument. then there was the defense that acting chief of staff mick mulvaney trotted out. the message basically, we did it. so what? everyone does. >> let's be clear. what you just described is a quid pro quo. it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as well. >> we do -- we do that all the time with foreign policy. >> he later included the now infamous line, get over it just for good measure. hours later of course he walked the whole thing back, blamed the media saying he didn't say what he was saying on camera right there, which is interesting for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that a slightly revised version of that argument is now once again being made by some of the president's supporters. the new version, president trump did it. his phone call and actions were bad, but they don't rise to the level of impeachment. >> i think it is not a good practice for us ever to ask a foreign country to investigate a

mark: it's been a pleasure it matt gaetz, thanks. see you next time on "life, liberty and l chris: i'm chris wallace. it's one year til election day, and a bitter fight over the impeachment of president trump divides the country and congress. ♪ >> the resolution is adopted without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. >> democrats are trying to impeach the president because they are scared they cannot defeat him at the ballot box. chris: a party-line vote sets the stage for open hearings on impeachment and gives house intelligence committee chair adam schiff broad powers. >> i do not take any pleasure in the events that have made this process necessary. >> you can't impeach the president who did nothing wrong. chris: we'll discuss the democrats' plan and the white house response with counselor to president kellyanne conway, and we'll get reaction from congressman jim hines, the number two democrat on the intelligence committee. >>> then, how the impeachment timeline shape the 2020 democratic campaign for preside

there's the jim jordan, matt gaetz kind of comprise caucus argument this was all a conspiracy theory. mark meadows makes the case it all stopped at giuliani, never reached the president. ted cruz says the president never had criminal intent. senator ted cruz and johnson said this is routine, happens all the time. lindsey graham says the president is simply too stupid to engage in some type of corrupt practice. but what each one of those arguments requires of the american people and why they fail ultimately in the eyes of the american people is it's asking the voter to believe secondhand information and interpretation of politicians over the firsthand fact-based coordination of people who were there, bill taylor, gordon sondland, ambassador yovanovitch, george kent. each of those saying yes the president was involved, yes he was coordinating it, yes there was intent, and yes there was impeachable activity. which leaves republicans with only one argument which they have failed to yet resolve and come down to which is it's simply not impeachable conduct. they don't want to reach that arg

he's interviewed by republican congressman matt gaetz of florida. "after words" is a weekly interview program with relevant guest hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> host: senator paul you're one of the most interesting people in american politics and especially in the republican party. i was a fan of yours long before i got the chance to meet you work with you in the congress, eager to chat about your book, "the case against socialism" but maybe first just reflect about the role you have within the congress, within our party as an independent voice and someone who's willing to strike out on issues that may be of the republicans are not willing to strike out on tragic sometimes i think i'm a lonely voice. you know it is in the house, if you believe we should spend less or have a limited constitutional government really controversial things like that, limited constitutional government, unfortunately we never get any of the other side but the wind is a lot on our side i could be better at it and and i guess ts one of

under judiciary, you have some conservative bomb throwers like matt gaetz, like louie gomer, who were the ones responsible for the political stunt in storming the secure scif and interrupting the depositions that were underway. on the other hand, you have liberal bomb throwers like, you know, liberal like ted lieu. so i think what that means is these are going to be much -- that's sort of a recipe for much more explosive hearings than perhaps we saw under adam schiff's intelligence committee. >> some might say good tv if you like that kind of stuff. >> sure. >> yeah. if you like that kind of stuff. scott does. daniel litman, as we look at this here, these two deadlines, the second deadline is if the president would like to call his own witnesses. is it then up to nadler to say yes or no? >> yeah. i think nadler doesn't want to make it look too partisan. this is already a pretty partisan process. and so it depends on what kind of witnesses the president would want to send up. i don't think he's going to send too many up because that would legitimize this inquiry in the first place. i t

when i brought a few of my colleagues, matt gaetz and others, down to the schiff skipper we were trying to just find out what was going on, he literally ran out of the g back room with a witness. what has he been trying to hide? i think we've seen that. he's got no case. there literally is no evidence that there was any collusion. i thought so many of our membe members, what at least at heroically come asking tough questions. that makes her a target onon the left. that site she is talking about, i think people are fed up with the bullying, the intimidation that is coming from the left. the people that are claiming quid pro quo, they are the ones who are out there, frankly, it started with joe biden. he was the original quid pro quo, where he literally said, i am leaving in six hours with a billion dollars of your and my taxpayer money if they don't fire the guy looking into a son and they fired the guy. joe biden wants to ride off into the sunset and impeach donald trump for that. there is no impeachable offense. every witness, every star democrat winters made clear they saw nothing. ev

they love the state of florida, congressman matt gaetz.st watched last night on television. he was fantastic. he was fantastic. congressman michael long. billy posey, a great guy and a great fighter. come up, billy. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: gus bilirakis. gus, come on up. and a man who is an incredibly brave guy come a friend of mine, somebody who has done a fantastic job and loves this state. brian mast. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: i want to introduce a friend of all of ours who ran a friend of all of ours who ran a great campaign, won easily, despite a lot of crooked stuff going on with those voting machines. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: true. he better not be more popular in florida than me. here's a quick one. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: here's a quick story. i shouldn't say it. what the hell? ron has been a friend of mine for a long time. he was an incredible they would have two or three jobs. that's not happening anymore. you can choose your job. if you don't like what you are doing, if you are not havin

in hill's testimony you see where matt gaetz tried to storm into the room. he, of course, is not a member of the relevant committees. he had to be pushed out. in vindman's testimony you see where republicans time and time again tried to get him to mention the name of the whistle-blower. vindman says time and time again he doesn't know who the whistle-blower is. the strategy, i'm told, by republicans is that they thought the name would show up here or at least bread crumbs would show up in the transcripts that when it became public the whistle-blower's identity would be released, katie. >> it is the same story over and over, nick. >> well, look, this is actually a game of hangman in reverse, right. the word is already spelled out, quid pro quo. the only question is on any given occasion who is going to fill in which dot and which letter and spell it out. we basically have it. it is a quid pro quo and either witness has come forward to firm up the basic narrative, which is they offered the package of aid and -- >> well, some republicans are saying that this ha

a united states senator from a coal state, indiana, -- representative matt gaetz i has a crime and change bill very dan crenshaw, a conservative representative has a climate change bill. there is absolutely reason to think that we can have these conversations. this is a sophisticated audience. it was signed into law by this president. there are things that can happen. maybe they are smaller things. canblicans and democrats find things they can agree on to do about climate change. there is a growing conversation on the right. there is more reason for optimism than others might say. >> i'm going to use the moderator's discretion and be the skeptic. there was a mention of trump's legacy. one would intercept -- you have democratic candidates talking about how they would want to make trade -- a way of doing things. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have talked about posing a fee on importing carbon intensive goods. biden said he would take a hard line on china. what do you make of these plans to better incorporate climate into trade and how that might be done? of the biggest gaps in most dem