you know matt gaetz? ever hear of matt gaetz? [applause] former pres. trump: very special guy. >> mr. president, i cannot stand these people that are destroying our country. they are opening our borders. they are weaponizing our law enforcement against patriotic americans who love this nation as we should. we are having a great time at the fair. we know that only through force do we make any change in a corrupt town like washington, d.c. all of my friends here in iowa, when you see them come for this man, know they are coming for our movement and for all of us. as hard as you see him work, i need you working 10 times harder, 100 times harder. we are going to win iowa, get the nomination [indiscernible] [applause] former pres. trump:, on up. -- come on up. this is a man who people love. everybody knows and loves him. he gave up a lot. he is one of the most respected congressman, and ibis want to thank you very much for coming. -- i just want to thank you very much for coming. >> that is how the president holds of our veterans. i mean that for real. he do

[laughter] matt gaetz. i like that timing. that worked. that was nice.ought he had the whole thing in the bag on the 14th, but in order to win, he needed gaetz on that vote to vote for him, to say mccarthy instead. at the very end of the 14th ballot, gaetz voted "present." okay. that must have upset a lot of people because there's nothing worse than being reminded that matt gaetz is in the room. after that, all pluperfect hell broke loose. a furious mccarthy, got out of his seat, walked up the aisle, and got into a yelling match with matt gaetz. me-ouch! get a saucer of milk. you can catch all the drama on the new bravo hit "the real house guys of d.c." [laughter and cheering] no. no, no. uh-uh. i am not here to make friends because i am kevin mccarthy and no one will be my friend. then... that was wine. that was a glass of wine. then it got even dramatic-er when mccarthy ally mike rogers approached the scrum and then, where is it? right here, he appeared to lunge at matt gaetz and was quickly pulled away. oh, my god. i don't know if men should hold poli

and this works together with the violence that is being incited by people like congressman matt gaetzrce that we can change things. >> yes -- >> >> so that's how the pieces fit together, which just makes it such a threat for our democracy. >> i am so glad that you brought up that point about matt gaetz's comments today. because, you know, if this was on the other side, if this was somebody who was a liberal or a progressive or democrat who said that the only way is through force? the right would be up in arms, this country would be talking about it, fox news would be going into a tailspin. and yet here we are, it's almost as if it has been normalized. and i think, molly, that is what is so dangerous about it. about a second trump term. but he could just, you know, normalize this behavior. clean house at the justice department, attempt to pardon himself. put us in a constitutional crisis in more ways than one, and, you know, that's a very real fear going into this presidential election. but i am not sure every american recognizes this. >> yeah, for me, what i find the scariest, is that

have a listen to florida congressman matt gaetz speaking on trump and self at the iowa state fair yesterday. >> i cannot stand these people are destroying our country. they are opening our borders, they are weaponizing the law enforcement against patriotic americans who love their nation as they should. -- we love standing with you, but we know that only through force do we make any change in a corrupt town like washington, d.c.. >> only by forest can we make change in d.c.. that's what he said. still not enough for you? and listen also to what michigan republican state representative matt maddox whose wife is a co-chair of the michigan republican dream one of the 16 fake electors who was criminally charged last month. listen to what he had to say this month at a gop fund-raiser for an audio recording obtained by the new side messenger. >> if the government continues to weaponize the departments against conservatives and the citizens that are then the tax neighbors, what's gonna happen in this country. someone's gonna get so passed off to gonna shoot someone. it's what's gonna happen. or we

do you attribute this intensifying commitment to violence, to trump, to other republicans like matt gaetzing only force is the way to change d. c.? >> it is a couple things. we've seen this before. it's 50% increase. it is highly correlated to the events in recent months. in terms of these indictments and court charges. i'd like to remind everybody that in an election year this is when we tend traditionally in the united states to see a spike in domestic terrorism or domestic extremism and there's a lot of tension and a lot of boiling that's going to come up as we head into 2024. we are right at 15 months. the debates are starting soon i would think if you just look at the rhetoric and then you look at the, trends we are going into a really dangerous. period what i'm hopeful for is in the post january six era you saw lots of more mobilized and organize groups really get broken up. they disintegrated. they were prosecuted for being at january six. or you have these major cases with the proud boys where they are prosecuted hopefully that will stymie some of the more organized violence i thi

what i want to go back to matt gaetz's comments. which is part of this, but some pockets.ree fourths that we can clean up a city as corrupt as washington d. c.. what he's saying is that they are not going to have change their elections or legislation or through reform. they will change through violence, that's a fascist stop. so even if trump is out of the picture, these are people who have adopted methods very familiar to me as a historian of fascism. that violence and corruption and lying, that is what the party is today. >> and as we have seen, or some they may dismiss it as rhetorical, but there are people out there who will hear that and take it literally, and we have seen what has happened. people showing up at former president obama's house with guns. or doing something else. ruth ben-ghiat, molly jong-fass, always a pleasure and thank you to the both of you for joining us tonight. next, experts say clarence thomas appears to have violated the law. again, we will tell you about that. easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on to

matt gaetz as a maga screams because relentless information warrior.sidered in a positive way. the reason i have used the term fascist thugs which may seem strong is because fascists really believe that violence is the way you move history forward. what representative matt gaetz is saying that by forces by the way were gonna change, things it's not gonna be by elections or democratic reform or legislation, it's gonna be violence. that's the message that he is giving. >> how does trump benefit from serenity surrounding him by loyalist, there are many but in this case congressman gaetz. ? >> it's everything trump does to beef up his personality cult and see that show that he is the undisputed leader of his party. the more trouble he is, the more he has needs to have people do these performances. this was a performance that matt gaetz did and how did he start? off he called him mr. prize president, so he's propping up the big law. and then he repeats the talking point, they're coming after you everyone, they're not just coming after president trump. so th

you know matt gaetz? [cheering] a very very special guy. >> mr. president, i cannot stand these people that are destroying our country. they are opening our borders. they are weaponizing our federal law enforcement against patriotic americans who love this nation as we should. were having a great time of the fair and we love standing with you, but we know only through force that we make any change in a corrupt town like washington dc. to all my friends here in iowa, we knew see this man -- [indiscernible] -- they are coming for all of us. as hard as you see him working, i need you to work 10 times harder, 100 times harder, we will work and save the greatest country in the world. [cheering] >> thank you. thank you. come on up. get on over here. can you come on, give me your hand. that is great. >> thank you, mr. president. >> i got you. >> this is a man who a love -- everybody knows him and loves him. he gave up a lot a real lot and he is one of our most respected congressmen and i want to thank you very much for coming. brian mast. everybody knows

according to marjorie taylor greene, speaker mccarthy's apparently taking direction from matt gaetz andnald trump. >> that leaves the decision to kevin mccarthy, ultimately, are you confident he's gonna go with the impeachment inquiry this fall in september? >> i am confident. the reason why i'm confident, we have house gop call yesterday, and that was his big push on the call. so, if we were to have the vote today right now, kevin mccarthy would be one of the first ones to vote yes. >> now, there is just one small problem. republicans have no evidence that joe biden committed a high crime or misdemeanor. you have to take my word for it. as one unnamed republican lawmaker told reporters, quote, there's just no evidence. and they can't impeach without that evidence. i don't think the evidence exists. others have gone on the record with -- including don bacon of nebraska, quote, i think before we move to an impeachment inquiry, there should be a direct link to the president in some evidence. so, they have no evidence, no facts, nothing. to suggest the president committed any high crime or

and the things that marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz and others are seeing are inflaming a situationat is quite serious. so i think we are very concerned. i trust our agencies are doing the right thing. i absolutely trust that we should stay out of the way, let the legal process play out. >> and congressman, on that note as trump's legal issues continue to play out, house republicans are ramping up efforts to investigate president biden. the house oversight committee heard from former hunter biden 's business partner devin archer this week. behind closed doors oversight chair james comey was asked about, i want you to take a listen to this exchange. >> do you believe that this is now officially the joe biden bribery allegation, do you believe that you'll be able to prove that? jim corner. >> sure, i hope so. i do believe there is a lot of smoke and where there is smoke, there is fire. >> you on the oversight committee, republicans think they scored some kind of victory this week with governors testimony. the answer is, i sure hope so. what is your response to that? >> again, it is re

including georgia represented marjorie taylor greene of georgia as well as matt gaetz and byron donaldsri lake who lost in arizona is also planning to travel to milwaukee. he is one of eight presence of candidates to meet the rnc fundraising requirements to qualify for the debate. that shows some of the supporters being able to talk to the media and talk up mr. trump as well in his absence. oklahoma is next on our no line. this is bill. caller: i don't think that trump should debate because he's full of lies, he will get the young people on, they are all on the pots now because it is legal. we need more biden. host: you are not a republican i gather? caller: no. host: you are calling in on our public and only kind of call in so make sure you follow the rules. republicans only. if you called in the last 30 days, please hold off. you can call us on the line. the yes or no line and you can also post on social media and text us. charlie in missouri, hello. you are on, go ahead. caller: so chris christie can give us and him. host: what do you mean by that. caller: what he deserves. it's obvi

but congressman matt gaetz says the former president has nothing to prove and he says trump's plan torender at the fulton county jail on thursday will smother debate coverage. certainly president trump would rather not be indicted that be indicted. but if you're going to have to pay the piper, you might as well danced. and there's no master of political timing. quite like president trump. trump says instead of the debate, he sat down for an interview with tucker carlson which is scheduled to air on line at the same time in washington. i'm hannah brandt. >> a judge has ruled that live television cameras can be in the courtroom during the arraignment of former president trump in georgia, a fulton county judge granting that request from 4 local stations on tuesday yesterday. the county's district attorney says she hopes to hold their arraignments the week after labor day. there's no word yet if cameras will be allowed during a future trial. now to our 4 zone forecast that step outside. give you a live look at san francisco. clear skies sunshine, lawrence, s anding by to tell us just how

do you want marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, ron desantis, and rx famous leader deciding the fatet -- keeping your hope up i think is a moral commandment. i say do not worry, so how do you keep your hope up? where does that come from? >> bruce: you have to be a fighting optimist, i believe. and there was an attempt to overturn free and fair election. they failed. >> stephen: but every day we learned there was much more complexity and more consp conspirators. >> bruce: yes. but it's a cliche, but how do you remain optimistic, i have young kids, i have to. i don't have a choice. [applause] you know, and the other choices is unthinkable, so you have to remain optimistic. and seeing them, my kids were around for george floyd and black lives matter's protests, and seeing them in the streets the day after the election, you know, it's a cliche, but that's what keeps me optimistic. i think there is a great generation of young people coming up who are -- are interested in protecting american democracy and things like the fundamental right to vote. all of which has been sort of an endangere

now, if we had booked matt gaetz, maybe we would have heard that. but this is a very conservative member of the house freedom caucus. very conservative republican. not really, you know, not really offering much of a defense. >> no. and doesn't think that donald trump should be the nominee. he is one of the people who we call part of the sort of extreme right. back in 2010. and now. >> tea party. >> yeah, exactly. and he still considers himself that. and it is that part of the party has been totally overtaken by donald trump. all of the party has been overtaken by donald trump. what was interesting about last night is you started to hear some of the fiscal responsibility arguments seep up and catch a lot of fire from nikki haley and others. the question is whether the ken buck arguments, whether the nikki haley arguments. whether any of them will have any oxygen when you have what you saw tonight from the front runner. >> you know what else struck me after last night's debate? the candidates were asked basically the same question that jake asked ken

and so when we wonder why kevin mccarthy is has capitulated to to greene and to into matt gaetz and theot because he's developed a great fondness for them, it's that he them he recognizes that that as long trump still control is trump and trumpism i should say controls the base, the republican party, the people that will turn out then then he himself will be turned out. if he doesn't pay attention to them. and it's for that reason that we've seen her get after being stripped of her committee assignments in 2021 to be given plum assignments to to be sit in on senior policy level. i mean, she has essentially without attaining any leadership, become a republican leader. i was out to do this. i'd gotten the contract for it. i think december the 20th or something like that or 2020. and at the time, you know. greene had won, but, you know, seem like she was just going to be a marginal character. i couldn't spending much time writing about her. liz, in the meantime, was the most dominant female republican on capitol hill, arguably in and i would not have would not have predicted that that woul

. >> matt gaetz. >> reporter: courtney only grew more concerned.unt was removed, courtney felt relieved, but not safe. >> i don't want to be out in public and someone notice my picture that was on the account, approach me or my family. who knows what someone would do that didn't agree with what erica marsh was saying? >> whoever's running this account knows what people like and knows how to get attention. >> reporter: a professor at clemson studied disinformation and trolling. what is erica marsh? is it a parody, a troll, a disinformation campaign? >> erica marsh is a fake online influencer. she isn't a troll in the way that a lot of viewers may think of a troll. >> reporter: he believes this was the work of a professional. >> this is not an amateur, no. it would be very hard for an amateur to get to well over 100,000 followers in such a short amount of time. >> reporter: courtney's pictures plucked on purpose. >> she looks all american, she looks friendly. ultimately it's about influence, meant to engage with a specific audience. >> reporter: whet

but congressman matt gaetz says trump's plan to surrender on thursday is intended to smother the debate coverage. >> certainly president trump would rather not be indicted that be indicted. but if you're going to have to pay the piper, you might as well danced. and there's no master of political timing. quite like president trump. >> trump says intent of that instead of attending the debate, he sat down for an interview with tucker carlson, which is scheduled to air on line at the very same time. and a judge has ruled that live television cameras can be in the courtroom during the arraignment of former president trump in georgia. the fulton county judge granted this request from 4 local television stations, the fulton county district attorney says she hopes to hold their arraignments the week after labor day. there's no word yet on if cameras will be allowed during a future trial. the former president is expected to surrender, as we said in this case at some point tomorrow. but just in a few hours from now, 8 republicans vying to take the white house will first take on the debate stage.

at some point, this strategy is going to backfire on the jim jordans and matt gaetz because they're goingon things that americans are not going to be supportive of. >> i think that's where this is headed. i actually hope this is where that is headed. the church committee regularly sent out rules, guidelines that i operated under for 25 years in the fbi. and yeah, they got it right for the most part, because there were abuses. but now we're seeing abuses in terms of weaponizing the powers of congress. we've heard calls to defund the fbi, the department of justice. now essentially they want to hold hostage the budget of the united states government, essentially defund the budget because they think, or at least their theatrically going to perform like if we do this, we can somehow pull the plug on jack smith or fani willis or alvin bragg in manhattan. it can't happen. but it is perform tif, and it is playing to not only trump, but at least the core base of trump. what continues to amaze me from a security perspective is the degree to which national security is being held hostage. the degree

. >> tonight, republican fire brands matt gaetz and marjorie taylor green renewing their calls to defundcial counsel jack smith's investigations into former president trump. green eyeing the upcoming appropriations process gaetz retweeting a previous call to take up this bill. >> they are attacking our democracy and engaging in election interference right now. >> any such measure would likely fail in a democrat controlled senate. now, both parties are watching what house judiciary chairman jim jordan does next. a judiciary spokesperson tells fox everything is on the table. including calling smith to testify. republicans taking particular issue with the timing of the incident one day after former hunter biden associate devon archer's testimony. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and the conspiracy to defraud charge over trump disputing the 2020 election results. republicans pointing to democrats who challenged the outcome of the 2016 election. >> mr. president, i object to the certificate from the state of alabama. >> and those who oppose certifying the results. >> mr. president, i obj

to set up some surrogates to be there in his place, people like congressman byron donnells and matt gaetz of florida, and as well as members of donald trump's team. they want them in the spin room to defend donald trump even if he is not there. i'm also told that donald trump has been telling people even this week that he does think that fox news is worried about the ratings for this debate. news executives from fox went to bedminster last month and encouraged donald trump to participate, and truffle thinks that was a -- trump thinks that was a sign that they're worried about ratings. one other thing i want to point out is that donald trump is also amid all of this facing that indictment in georgia. he's expected to surrender next week, i am told. and this could all be setting up a potential collision course with those debates. >> yeah. mostly appreciate the hedging, that is a veteran move by a veteran reporter. >> reporter: you got to do it. >> thank you so much. >>> now i want to turn to something that has to do with the debate. it's fascinating. it just broke a couple of moments ago. a

his team has been talking to people like congressman byron donalds and congressman matt gaetz both oflorida as well as kari lake and members of donald trump's team himself to be in the spin room that night and represent him. >> some of whom you mentioned kari lake have also spouted falsehoods about the 2020 election. alayna treene, thanks so much. boris. >> more than 100 people now confirmed dead in the hawaii wildfires. more than 1,000 still missing. we're going to take you live to lahaina with more on the painstaking search for victims. plus, if you're over covid you're not alone. a new poll shows the rest of america is too. but is the threat over? a lot of folks getting sick. get ready for virus season. it's coming. and we need to prepare. but now i'm working for schwab. i love t to help people understd the world through their lens and invest accordingly. you can call us christmas eve at four o'clock in the morning. we're gonna always make suree that you have all of the financial tools and support to secure your financial future. that means a lot for my community and for every comm

well, three of trump's biggest supporters in congress, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, and byron to head to milwaukee, too, but as of now, all will be watching the debate because they won't be credentials to get in there. fox news is allowing an exception for possible trump surrogates, saying they can get into the spin roomvited as gues organizations. yeah, i'm confused, too. >>> meanwhile, in georgia, a federal judge has struck down parts of a controversial law that banned giving out food and drinks to voters waiting more than 150 feet from their polling location. supporters argued the law protects voters from the influence of partisan volunteers, while opponents claimed it violated first amendment rights. the georgia law was one of many voting restriction measures passed across the country in the wake of donald trump's 2020 loss, which he falsely blamed on voting fraud. joining us, the non-profit the nineteenth and contributor, in the last couple years, the state is solidly purple, hence all this attention on the voting laws here. how important is georgia in 2024? >> we're seei

. >> reporter: matt gaetz. >> with my face.inst impersonation. once the erica marsh account was removed, courtney felt relieved but not safe. >> i don't want to be out in public and someone notice my picture that was on the account, approach me, approach my family. who knows what someone would do that didn't agree with what erica marsh was saying. >> whoever's running this account knows what people like, and knows how to get attention. >> reporter: darin lindeville, a professor at clemson university, studies disinformation and trolling. what is erica marsh? is it a parody, a troll, a disinformation campaign? what is she? >> erica marsh is a fake online influencer. she isn't a troll in the way that a lot of viewers may think of a troll. >> reporter: he believes this was the work of a professional. >> this is not an amateur, no. it would be very hard for an amateur to get to well over 100,000 followers in such a short amount of time. >> reporter: and courtney's pictures, plucked on purpose. >> she looks all american. she looks go

but congressman matt gaetz says trump's plan to surrender on thursday is intended to smother the debate coverage. >> certainly president trump would rather not be indicted that be indicted. but if you're going to have to pay the piper, you might as well danced. and there's no master of political timing. quite like president trump. >> still to come, an activist group in san francisco taking matters into their own hands at intersection where a 4 year-old was killed last week. >> yes, prices hitting an all-time high here in california. what you can expect to pay the next time you fill up and ikea opening its doors and its new san francisco location on market street today amid a recent exodus of retailers will take exodus of retailers will take a look inside after the break. (warehouse ambience) introducing togo's new french dip sandwiches featuring fresh artisan bread piled high with tender roast beef, smothered with melty provolone cheese and served with hot au jus for dipping. try the roast beef or pastrami french dips today only at togo's mom, we need to talk to you about yiorgos. don't

whistleblower david grurch which drew one of the largest crowds ever on capitol hill, congressman burchett, matt gaetz committee with subpoena powers. so far crickets from mccarthy. >> i doesn't say. distraction. >> a uap caucus this week which sent a letter to the intelligence community inspector general demanding information about the crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs by gresh. >> i can't go beyond what i have publicly exposed about that. >> lawmakers are trying to get him inside a classified setting so he can speak more freely. but burchett wants to keep things declassified and available to the american people. anyone to thinks uaps laughing matters. >> i get the ufo question. >> burchett says this will be a national security for any commander-in-chief. >> it's an issue cuts across all barriers and borders. >> tonight we did reach out to kevin mccarthy's office to find out where he stands on that request for a special select committee on uaps and we just haven't heard back from him yet. bret? >> bret: and we'll continue to ask the questions. aishah, thank you. >> bret: in tonight's w

marjorie tailor green, matt gaetz, kari lake. jason miller, steven chung will show up.t going to be there, you can expect his team to be all over the air waves. >> some defenders maybe on the stage, too, if you look at some of the memos coming out as suggestion for candidates. >> that's a good point. >> the desantis strategy. cnn's reporting yesterday on this is desantis according to the new campaign manager, he's fully prepared to be on the receiving end of all of that. much they think this is their biggest opportunity. others call it their biggest risk on the stage. he's going to be there. he's going to be a focus. you've got chris christie. you've got bull dogs, at least one bulldog who is going to go after him. what do you think of desantis who has been defending trump. >> for desantis, this is the make or break moment, right? he entered the campaign season as essentially the darling of donors. he's been bedeviled in the past few months, the campaign missteps. >> the announcement on x, you couldn't hear it. >> it started off on a wrong foot. >> a glitch. >> it was a

and it goes to matt gaetz saying, we bring change by violence. navarro saying civil law.renounce that. the same constitution donald trump wanted to suspend should and will afford him every protection unless and until found guilty. i think the challenge is bringing him to trial -- >> let me jump in and say, what do you think of the strength of the evidence in this rico indictment? because it is broad. and a lot of stuff is in writing. to pick one example i mentioned to viewers, the head of the republican party of the state showed up lying to the government claiming to be a trump elector validly representing the state of georgia when the electoral college already certified that president biden won georgia. and that person -- this is him on the screen in the new mugshot -- said he did that at the president's direction at the time. that seems like strong evidence of those violations, no? >> seeking to overturn a lawful election when allegedly president trump knew he had lost goes to the heart of attacking our democracy. but the problem with that case is 19 defendants -- and i

republican firebrand matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene are calling to defund special counsel jack smith. some folks are eyeing the appropriations process coming up, but gaetz is demanding that his conference bypass that all together and vote on his proposed bill now. we have not heard anything from house speaker kevin mccarthy yet or gop leadership, but any such measure, keep in mind, would not really get through a democrat-controlled senate. jim jordan has already come to trump's defense, waiting to see if he's going to demand that jack smith come testify on capitol hill. he's already requested a lot of documents related to the special counsel investigations into trump. republicans are taking particular issue with the conspiracy to defraud charge, where trump disputes the 2020 election results, everybody from joe biden, nancy pelosi, hillary clinton made similar statements over the 2016 election. they are also raising questions about the timing of all of this, particularly because this came just one day after the devon archer testimony. >> the timeline is really odd. donald trump

he has also been reaching out to his surrogates, people like byron donalds and matt gaetz, both congressmen of florida, and kari lake to represent him in the spin room. and i'm told some of donald trump's advisers will also be there that night. clearly even if he's not there he wants to have some sort of representation. but the other thing i'm hearing, jake, is that donald trump this week even has been telling people in conversations that he thinks fox news is worried about ratings. he had a dinner last month with fox news executives, president jay wallace and chief executive suzanne scott, and they really encouraged him thoroughly to join the debate. he's been telling people -- i talked to someone on monday who just spoke with him about this. saying that he thinks this means that they're very worried that they're going to do poorly without him there. so he's feeling very strongly that he doesn't have to show up. >> alayna treene, thanks so much. appreciate it. a week after the fires on maui more than 1,000 people remain unaccounted for. now some residents are returning for the first time t

like byron donalds, congressman from florida and matt gaetz, another congressman from florida and kari lake, gooubernatorial candidate. one thing i find interesting and picking up in my conversations is that donald trump has been telling people this week even that there was a dinner last month fox news executives, the president jay wallace as well u chief executive encouraged donald trump to participate in the debate. trump personally telling people he think that shows fox is worried about ratings without him and feeling he's in a strong position not to attend next week. >> thank you very much. see what he does maybe even at the 11th hour, as you said. >>> troubling news, cancer diagnosis rates on the rise for younger americans according to a new study and a certain gender and age group seeing the biggest stage. dr. sanjay gupta will break down the findings coming up. >>> and facing heat wearing a prosthetic nose about leonard bernstein and the legendary family is rushing to his defense. d flavor. mmmm. now available at subway. the sub, not the mouth guauard. oh booking.com, ♪ i'm goin

you've also got -- the honorable matt gaetz, congressman from florida.he honorable tulsi gabbard, former congresswoman, lieutenant colonel, host of "the tulsi gabbard show." mr. donald trump jr., executive vice president of the trump organization and host of the "triggered with don jr." podcast. and, kari lake. i guess that's her resume, i don't know. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i guess "former newscaster who lost" didn't look good on the flyer. when you buy a ticket, a general ticket costs $295. when you buy it, this is real. you have to promise you won't hold them liable if you get covid. [ laughter ] this is the same group of republicans who say covid is a joke, making you sign a waiver so they're not responsible if you die from that joke, perfect. [ laughter ] mike pence will not be attendance at cpac. the last time a big group of these maga monkeys got together, they tried to hang him. so he opted out. [ laughter ] the conference is being held at the gaylord harbor national resort and convention center, which is another reason mike pence won't come. [

narrative that trump and others in the right wing media like fox and others on capitol hill, like the matt gaetzushing out this lie that the election was stolen and they are afraid of upsetting the republican base which has been fed this lie now for several years and according to polls, largely believe it. >> and as we are watching this weekend, jake, all of the republican candidates, many of them were at the iowa state fair, the place where they all have to go to court voters before the iowa caucus. there were no real breakout moments for some of them. of course, president trump's dominating the conversation. will it be more important to watch for the governor of iowa, kim reynolds and who she may endorse knowing how popular she is with the party? >> i agree that that is the key. i would contradict you on one thing. vivek ramaswamy rapping one shot from eminem's eight mile, i would call that a breakout moments of sorts. not that will help him get elected as president but as an observer, i was impressed with the rap skills. but that said, i agree. the most important player in iowa politics is th

matt gaetz, ron desantis, josh hawley, and of course, donald trump all had something to say.mp boasted, "putin never, ever would have gone into ukraine if i were president. i actually had a very good relationship." yes, you had the kind of very good relationship a ventriloquist has with his dummy. [ laughter ] but of all the hot takes, none brought up more residual vomit than marjorie soylent greene, who tweeted -- "this is incredibly insulting. today on our presidents' day, joe biden, the president of the united states chose ukraine over america, while forcing the american people to pay for ukraine's government and war. i cannot express how much americans hate joe biden." well, to be fair, you cannot express anything. [ laughter ] klan mom also said it was insulting for zelensky to wear a t-shirt while meeting biden. right. everybody knows the respectful way to greet a president is to heckle him on national television during his speech. [ laughter ] the russians are not happy about this at all. putin today announced they will suspend their participation in the s.t.a.r.t. nuc

some republicans like matt gaetz, a close ally of donald trump, marjorie taylor greene trying to defund counsel's office. that will go nowhere in part because the democratic-controlled senate won't allow it and senate republicans are far less likely to fall in line directly behind the former president. the person i'm watching closely, jose, i want to hear what mitch mcconnell has to say about this. remember, after he voted to acquit donald trump in the second impeachment, he gave a speech excoriating him on the senate floor suggesting exactly this type of accountability could be coming for the former president. he hasn't said anything publicly since the indictment was unsealed. >> garrett haake, charles coleman, glen kirschner, thank you so very much. >>> coming up, central to jack smith's investigation was the work done by the january 6th committee. up next, we'll talk to one of the committee's members, congresswoman zoe lofgren, we'll ask her whether jack smith's indictment went far enough. great to see you. we'll chat in just a minute. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on ms

kari lake, congressman matt gaetz, and marjorie taylor greene, who actually advised trump to be a no-showthere is no need for you to debate. your winning the primary, he is winning by absurd numbers. so, there is no reason for a president who has the best for your record in my lifetime, i'm almost 50 years old, best for your record i've ever known, to step on the debate stage with candidates that no one's voting for. >> joining me now is former florida congressman msnbc told -- an april ryan, senior white house correspondent. it's such a pleasure to have you here for my sunday morning power political panel. david, let's start with you, we just played that sound of marjorie taylor greene defending donald trump. she is expected to be in milwaukee during the debate. what is she trying to accomplish? i think she is just vying for that vp slight. >> sure she is. katie, please don't make me agree with marjorie taylor greene on the sunday morning. despite the fact i disagree with it great for years, she is right, there is no reason politically for donald trump to show up for the debate. you know

kari lake, also one who proffers election lies, as well as florida congressman byron donalds, and matt gaetzcnn's alayna treene joins us now live. what's going to happen tomorrow? will gaetz, donalds and lake be able to be in that spin room to make their case for the non-participating trump? or will there be sort of dividing lines? >> i think they will be there, jim. i think since this reporting they have come to a resolution. and really the trump team has found somewhat of a loophole here. they'll be able to use outside media, other media organizations that aren't fox news if they are able to give the trump team and some of his surrogates a credential they will be able to be there in the spin room tomorrow night. and that is currently the plan. but i will tell you, jim, this really frustrated a lot of trump advisers and people i spoke with yesterday who spent a lot of time trying to sort this out with the network. they felt, you know, like this was a slap in the face from fox even though of course fox made this decision given that the former president will not be on the debate stage tomorro

these people -- and i'm including city lawmakers like representative matt gaetz who says we are onlyge to washington through force -- these are people who are continually inciting violence. and they want to have a destabilization of society. they want people to be threatened, or they would not be doing this. they are making a choice. and it is quite astonishing that, in a superpower which only has two major parties, one of those two parties, the sitting lawmakers, are inciting violence, practically, on a daily basis. >> clint watts, ruth ben-ghiat, thank you both so much for talking us through this. plus, we are going to come back after another court weighs in on the nation's most used abortion drug. it's now up to the supreme court to decide whether mifepristone should remain legal and available. and we continue to follow hurricane hilary as it makes its way towards southern california. stay with us. we always had questions. who do we belong to? who are our ancestors? i know we have them. when i found that immigration record on ancestry®, it just changed everything. i feel like a ti

he actually seems to be using proxyings with regard to the iowa state fair and matt gaetz, congressmang his head, using proxies and surrogates to do this. here's good news, we're not seeing, i'm not seeing in known extremist sites, people planning in a big way to do some harm to this event. what i tell my friends in law enforcement is they're in for a marathon on security posture. this is not a sprint. let's not overfocus on one event happening tonight. let's realize the trials are going to take place over a protracted period, which requires a protracted security posture. >> i want to play part of an exchange between trump and tucker carlson last night because it does kind of get to the bigger picture we're in right now. let's take a listen. >> so do you think it's possible that there's open conflict? >> i don't know. i don't know because i don't know what it -- i can say this, there's a level of passion that i've never seen. there's a level of hatred that i've never seen, and that's probably a bad combination. >> so he talks about this combination of passion and hatred, a level of hat

. >> jim jordan and matt gaetz, hawley stepping forward. remedy was for vice president pence as the quarterback in the green bay suite to remand those votes back to the six battleground states. >> do you realize you're describing a coup? >> no. >> that was trump aide peter navarro in our interview. he was serving in the white house at the time. he was named by trump in the first tweet announcing a january 6th gathering that would be wild. mr. novarro, like mr. bannon, were part of the political aides in addition to these now-indicted -- i should say, unindicted coconspirator lawyers who were cooking up all these different routes to hijack the 6th. one of them was to deny certification but claim delay. that's what our broadcast began, with trump lawyers talking about, oh, we need time, we need ten days. novarro doubled down on that. >> you had the battleground states challenge the results, that would trigger 24 hours of hearings. mike pence's job at that point was to take ten days and go back and give the state legislatures, who really are t

we saw it with matt gaetz saying, only through force do we make change happen.saw trump nodding his head. >> laura, briefly, mark meadows, he is the mystery man as to, is he cooperating with one or the other? where does he stand, do you think? >> it's really one of the more fascinating parts of this story. the honest answer is, we don't know. i think more and more, including next week, when he will have to perhaps provide a little bit more color into what he was doing, we might get more of a preview of what his level of cooperation is. >> laura, it's great to see you and frank in person as well. robert, thanks for jumping in. thanks to blayne alexander in atlanta. >>> joining us now, colorado republican congressman ken buck. congressman, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> i want to follow up on what we were talking about, your reaction to former president trump's expected surrender today with four criminal trials now looming, former freedom caucus colleague mark meadows facing possible prison time. that's a long way down the road. facing all

. >> matt gaetz. >> with my face, so that is. >> but courtney only group more concerned about it's message. >> twitter has a policy against impersonation. once the erika marsh account was removed, courtney felt relieved but not safe. >> i do want to be out in public and someone notice my picture that was on the account approach me approach my family. who knows what someone like to the didn't gray with what erica marsh was saying. >> who's ever running this account knows what people like and knows how to get attention. >> that's a professor at the university studies disinformation and trolling. >> what is erica marsh? is it a party, a troll, as a disinformation campaign what is she? >> hurricane marsh is a fake online influencer. she isn't a troll and the way that a lot of viewers may think of as a troll. >> london thinks this was work of a professional. >> this is not an amateur now. will be very hard for an amateur to get to well over 100,000 followers in such a short amount of time. >> and courtney's pictures parked on purpose.

meanwhile, matt gaetz is pushing for legislation that would flat out cut off funding for smith's office an effort that is supported by de facto house speaker marjorie taylor greene. and then you have congressman jim jordan, chairman of the house judiciary committee who just last week opened an investigation into fani willis. he's also calling for provisions in the spending bill that would change how the justice department can use money. that includes barring the doj from conducting a politically sensitive investigation which includes political candidates and family until the department of justice establishes a policy requiring non-partisan career staff to oversee such investigations. no mention of whether or not that standard would apply to his party's investigation into another presidential candidate, named joe biden. joining me now is kurt bardella, former spokesperson for the house oversight committee. oh, kurt. >> here we are again. >> they want to defund the police. >> how about that? >> what's up with that? >> you have to understand that when a republican is in the line of fire, t

some of his congressional supporters, i believe matt gaetz is going to be there. >> i think there's aam that they can't totally cede the ground, they can't allow for trump have any part of this conversation. but what i think is really interesting is who steps up in trump's place. i think a lot of folks have been very intrigued with ron desantis and when, if ever, his campaign might launch. who i'm most intrigued by is vivek ramaswamy. he is an extremely effective candidate in terms of being able to pivot the conversation. he has an agenda. he calls it america first 2.0. but he, to me, perhaps is kind of the underrated candidate who really, if folks get a chance to see him, i think could kind of capitalize on this moment. >> and this is a guy that won't utter a single word of criticism about donald trump. he's even defending trump skipping the debate. but, sarah, let me ask you about this debate memo that was prepared by ron desantis' super pac, the campaign said they never saw it. but "the new york times" reporter -- i want to read one section from this -- trump's drama pitted brother