mike johnson clashing with hard liners matt gaetz and then relenting as you might recall because gaetzs weakened the rules because that means anybody can quickly have a vote of no confidence and they've used that power. >> kevin mccarthy likes to pretend he makes coalition with conservatives. kevin mccarthy's true coalition partner has been the democrats. he worked with them on the debt limit bill. >> gaetz has proven unpopular within his party and of course among his opponent democrats but he is the one who did act on what he said he would do and get those others to oust mccarthy. now mccarthy's replacement, speaker to mccarthy, he is doing the very thing gaetz and others said was so terrible, for example, democracy, where you use the votes in the house to pass things. doesn't sound that controversial. speaker johnson worked with democrats to get much-needed aid to foreign conflicts including ukraine and israel. he also relied on democrats to avoid the shutdown. maga republicans apparently think that they want to go into this campaign season with another civil war. johnson could need

matt gaetz is at regular prom. [laughter] i thought i saw matt gaetz here tonight but it was actually my own reflection in a spoon. [laughter] like many of you here tonight, i pretend to do news on tv. [laughter] my weekend co-anchor was going to join me here tonight but in solidarity with president biden, i decided to lose all of my black support. [laughter] they told me to say that and i am just realizing i was set up. [laughter] i have done "weekend update" for a while now but i started out doing the actual news. my first job out of college was as a reporter for the staten island advance newspaper. [applause] they do not have a table here tonight. but they asked me to pass along this message to the other journalists in the room. you think you are better than me? [laughter] i want to point out, we had a daily circulation of 100,000. the washington post would kill for that. [laughter] as a former aspiring journalist, i want to genuinely congratulate all of the award winners here tonight. congratulations. [applause

he is seeking guidance from, as you pointed out, matt gaetz, the very man who brought the resolution to oust kevin mccarthy. carthy back in october, and the guidance he's getting from gates according to this great reporting from our colleagues, melanie zanona, annie grayer, and manu raju. >> is >> that matt gaetz is arguing they need to get some republican wins on the board, but that could be very difficult for speaker johnson in the months ahead. that's because he's already given some signs that he could move on ukraine aid in some form or fashion. now, what state that actually takes remains to be seen. they could serve structure. this was some kind of loan program. he's still working out those details, but that's something else that house conservatives do not want to see on before. meanwhile, speaker johnson making a political argument that marjorie taylor greene may want to rethink her decision-making process here, here's what he said >> how. does, this motion to vacate help went back the majority or when a bigger majority >> i don't think it does and i think all of my other repub

that is why you've seen johnson strategizing and consulting with republicans like matt gaetz and johnson has been working over the recess break to put together a ukraine proposal that is the least politically damaging for his speakership are manu raju caught up with matt gaetz it's about some of his conversations with the speaker. here's what he had to say >> i'm glad the speaker hasn't rolled over to the $95,000,000,000 ukraine supplemental that the senate passed and i think that he's forging a better path on that issue. i talked to the speaker often his good friend of mine was sat next to each other for seven years. i gave the speaker some unsolicited advice that we've got to get into a fighting posture and i was very pleased with how the speaker received that advice >> now, johnson has not yet finalized a ukraine bill, but he has offered some clues about what it might look like, including turning the aid into a loan that is something that donald trump has floated. and clearly that would be a way to try to get some skeptical republicans on board with ukraine funding. but johnson has to

three, including matt gaetz opposes doing the same to johnson. there are four who are not saying what they would do. but on the subject of matt gaetz kevin mccarthy was a georgetown this week and he was incredibly blunt, candid, and sharp about matt gaetz give me the truth about that number >> and i'll give you the truth why i'm not speakers because one person, a member of congress wanted me to stop an ethics complaint because he slept with a 17-year-old an ethics complaint that started before i ever became speaker, and that's illegal and i'm not going to get the milk. did he do it or not? i don't know >> okay. before you jump in, i just need to say that the doj did investigate the congressman gates for sex trafficking. they looked into allegations that he had sexual relations with an underage girl. they dropped the investigation and february of 2023, he denies the allegations and gates responded to mccarthy san kevin is a liar, which actually is why he isn't speaker. just ask any of the 224 people who voted to remove him. >> listen. kevin mccart

, for example -- >> jordan: you did say that. >> ronny: your friend matt gaetz -- >> edit that out. >ameras off right now, let's just talk? or is it always just, you know, this guy is always on? everyone is always on, even in private meetings, everyone is still yelling about jewish space lasers? >> [laughs] when i came into congress, i had a lot of people ask me, do they really believe what they say? when i first came in, i kind of came up with three categories. traditional there are sort of the traditional conservatives, of which there are very few of them left. there are the crazies and you can mad libs fill in the blank whatever name you want. and then there are the cowards. the people who know better but just for their own purposes of staying in their jobs, they continue on. i will be honest with you, just in the five and half years that i've been in congress now, there are a lot more crazies than even when i started. and it is really alarming. i mean, some of them really do believe this. and i remember it, on the night of january 6 when we came back into the house of representati

while matt gaetz got away with it last time and marjorie taylor greene is talking about it this time,onstrates the vast majority of this conference don't want to play games like that. they want a speaker who leads them. they want to be told what to do. they want to have a game plan and a call and see that you have some passion behind what you're doing. i think he's starting to show that, and i think he's probably gaining a lot of respect in the lashing out you're seeing from people like matt gaetz is because they realize their authority or their ability, their leverage on the speaker is being taken away if things play out the way that i think they will. >> brendan buck and julie tsirkin, thank you, and joining me now is leon panetta, former secretary of defense, former cia director and author of "worthy fights." it is great to have you here. you know, joe biden and a lot of the republican party have something in common here, they're clearly frustrated, and in fact, the president has not -- has an op-ed in "the wall street journal" urging them to pass aid for ukraine, writing if congre

so you're going to say it's all because of matt gaetz. came to me, matt has an ethics complaint9, and if you watch abc news apparently i'm not a liar, it's true, he has a challenge with a minor and paying her money. it was asked, put into place an ethnics before i -- earth they cans before i ever became speaker. he wanted me to stop the challenge, i wouldn't. of so he got some other people who wouldn't vote for me and partnered with the democrats -- howard: he calls you a liar, he denies having sex -- >> so does he deny what mark if wayne said about a him, the ethics testimony that was about what was said? does he deny he told other people from your same network to call me about a it? i don't know if all these people are liars. i don't believe that to be true. i know what transpired. even if you look at byron donalds' latest quote this week -- howard: yeah, lord of the flies. >> what matt gaits did has broken the republican may noter he's now created lord of the plies -- majority. -- flies. ask anybody inside our conference, they actually

and apparently the speaker has been strategizing with matt gaetz. >> you just can't make this >> did not have that on my bingo card. >> this for 2024. this is such great >> reporting from our colleagues, including a melanie zanona and manu raju, and that is the case that obviously matt gaetz was a member of what kevin mccarthy called the crazy eight, who got rid of him marjorie taylor greene at the time was pro mccarthy, right? and so everything is kinda switching jersey is right now. yeah, that's a good way to put it and so now, what our colleagues are reporting is that the current speaker who is not exactly like a swiftkey rhino. i mean, he's, is a tried and true conservative. i don't think anybody would say anything different that he is getting the help strategically of matt gaetz? yeah >> all right. well, it's not often we hear >> hear the term strategy used when it comes to mac aids. so very interesting. >> well, we did oust the speaker. >> he did oust the speaker. >> strategy of sorts. you are dana, thanks a lot. appreciate it. be sure to watch biden at the top of the hour on i

so first of all, let's just talk for just a beat about the matt gaetz a bit. all the guy who orchestrated the crazy eight as kevin mccarthy called them. and now he's giving mike johnson some advice. is this is this buyer's remorse or seller's remorse, not buyer's remorse or is it like what is it? i do like the idea that he emphasized that it was unsolicited advice that mike johnson had actually reached out to him and sought this advice it's certainly interesting, i think that there has been a little bit of a poll pulling back of the motion to vacate fever in that house, republican conference that's not to say it can't happen again because it relies on a very small number of republicans who could combine with democrats. but this ukrainian thing is a huge question for mike johnson he has talked repeatedly about how this is an important thing to get done in some form. how you're going to get that done in a way that republicans want is very difficult. how you're going to get that done in a way that can get through the rules committee, which is a very significant p

in october the house was thrown into chaos by matt gaetz and seven useful idiots that teamed up with him within the republican conference and 208 democrats and at this moment, when you see what happened in the aftermath of vacating the chair and israel attacked in a terrorist attack a week later to do that, again, would be detrimental to the country and global security. >> and i think democrats who are seemingly trying to hold out for some negotiation really should look at this from the standpoint of the institution especially when we talk about protecting democracies. let's start with our own undermining the institution. no matter how much it made politically advantage, one party is destructive. and so i think it's incumbent on everybody republicans and democrats to say we're not going to do this again congresswoman marjorie taylor greene posted saying, quote, the real damage happening to our conference and are countries that our elected republican speaker supporting biden& the democrats agenda not fighting for our republican agenda, stop making excuses and blaming others i know, yo

did to you. >> what she's doing is different than what matt gaetz did.he didn't make it privileged so it's not unprovoked. the one thing i found about marjorie, she's a serious legislators that tells a policy and the best way is to set down and talk to them. i believe the speaker has spoken to marjorie. if you sit down and discuss, you understand you have congress, you don't control all you have to find common ground and that can be done, to preservatives can do it but the one thing i would tell you, i knew when i was there, would get water security with ukraine. now you are at a weaker hand talking about ukraine only. i think there is a way to go about to bring together on both sides. you are speaker, republicans majority in the house i would down for the other three leaders, i elevate democratic leader to speaker? go directly in with the president and negotiate. that's a stronger hand, that's what we do in the physical responsibly, we cut to trillium and welfare reform. all things democrats would never agree to but you use the strength of the majority

but we would definitely have a big majority to do it, but that's what marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetznd the extreme right of the party is so upset about. it was donald trump who was calling the shots on that one. >> let me ask you about that because you had congressman massy joining marjorie taylor greene efforts. do you think more republican will join them? >> i've heard there are a couple others in the wings they've got ready to demonstrate their momentum. but of course understand the maga rules, which speaker mccarthy had backed and pretty much the whole caucus was behind, any member of their caucus can file a motion to vacate the chair to topple the speaker, and so it does give the extremist elements in the party reporting directly to donald trump the power to dictate the course of events. it may be mike johnson is just fed up with it and he says, look, if you want to vacate the chair, go ahead and do it, but i've got to move forward at this point. he has several committee chairs who seem to be determined to get us a vote on ukraine. and they are starting to blow the whistle on ho

he made a lot of money matt gaetz going after mccarthy.ott watched sue and you becae household name of the oversight committee but not because you were calling people names. you actually did it through your work, through committee work and legislative work. but we ever gel bet back to thes were actually working hard ialls what made you famous and instead of what you say makes you fa famous? >> thank you.d and i appreciate it. i think you did the same as you made the argument. i think back to patrick monahan, the democratic center three plus years ago. i didn't agreeo no with much whp said, but his ability to people to go to the floor and make an argument here because all you do that and others in our conference doon that.go tim scott is exceptionally good and marco rubio was good at this pier that is why congress and the founders have the set up. it was wil not to have the biggt following on instagram and getu people -- look, i'm frustrated with the way the country isut wgoing, but i also know my frustration is mostly fired towards a feckl

latest beaker and tackiness but she was not the first, mark meadows did it and then her friend matt gaetz the country raising money and then they decided to separate but for the same purpose raising more money, green watched how much matt gaetz raced to attack kevin mccarthy with a ancillary benefit of killing an ethics investigation into alleged misconduct. now marjorie taylor greene is following suit over mike johnson's head. you may be wondering what would happen if the same energy was put into maybe winning the white house or we need to democrat senate seats in georgia there is a lot of money to be made in fame and when family members fight, there's just not much in it for you. joining us former acting speaker congressman patrick mchenry. welcome congressman, some are not billed for the majority. being the minority is easier, you show up, vote no imposter videos on social media. leading is hard we saw one speaker defrocked enough threats to defraud another. what is going on. >> it's just that. democrats run washington, the senate and the executive branch and the only thing that is sto

matt gaetz was asked about his opposition to the forename package. [video clip] >> what did you hear from the speaker what was that conversation like? >> tense. the only win we have is blocking the supplemental. what are we doing here? he views the the ukraine issue he's worried about ukraine's border we are worried about the american border. host: talk about marjorie taylor greene's call to vacate. [video clip] >> after tense conversation on the house floor. we were huddled looking at them and it was a whisper as a group when they don't want to be heard. and they wanted to call the bluff and saying bring the motion to vacate now. weeks ago marjorie taylor greene issued it and then the house took the week off so if she makes it privileged it will be a week plus two days of whenever she makes a privilege. i don't think she has momentum to actually remove johnson. it is not as personal as it was against kevin mccarthy. thomas matthew said he would cosponsor the motion to vacate but i haven't seen republicans say they pack up the motion to vacate and ev

you had said back in october house was thrown into chaos by matt gaetz seven useful idiots that teamedin the republican conference. and that was something that bothered you that you don't want to repeat that. but it seems to be on again. are you worried? >> look, this is the continuation of the clown show. you know, when you look at the changes -- challenges voters elected a house republican to governor and check and balance on the biden administration two of my bills the ship act and the iran china energy sanction act are in today's package of bills to target iranian petroleum which is funding their terrorism. this is taking on the biden administration this is holding them accountability and 88 billion dollars in increase iranian oil sales. what -- is happening within our conference is undermining our ability to govern and hold this administration accountable. speaker johnson like speaker mccarthy before him is doing the right thing by putting critical legislation on the floor in favor of the american people and in favor of america's role in the world. we are the leader of the free wo

i'd nerd from well, matt gaetz is at regular prom, but actually, thought i saw matt gaetz here tonight, but it was actually just my own reflection in a spoon like, many of you here tonight, i pretend to do news on tv my, weekend of date, co-anchored michael che was going to join me here tonight, but in solidarity with president biden, i decided to lose all my black support jay told me to say that and i'm just realizing i was set up i've done weekend update for awhile now, but most people don't know that i started out doing the actual well news. my first job out of college was as a reporter for the staten island advance newspaper they do not have a table well, here tonight but they asked me to pass along this message to the other print journalists in the room. you think you're better than me? >> by, the way. i want to point out when i worked at the steno don't advance. we had a daily circulation of 100,000 the washington post would kill for that so as. a former aspiring journalist, i wanted genuinely congratulate all the award winners here tonight congratulations. >> the correspondents

puts these on the floor, more democrats will come to his aid to stop marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetzs from taking him out. >> you have looked at this bill as it was released today. doesn't include what you think ukraine needs to fend off a possible russian offensive? >> yes, i think all of these cynics who say, how can ukraine when, are the same people who said they would not win the beginning of the war. that great britain would get wiped out by the germans in 1939. that the americans would lose to britain in 1776. we cannot be skeptics. we have to accept the fact that the ukrainian people are totally motivated and they have what it takes. with our help, we can beat back putin and the russians. >> these are bills that would support israel and the indo pacific as well. what do you think of this tactic to split this legislation up into separate bills? >> i will not second-guess what he did. many people wanted to vote on the senate bill that was already approved on a bipartisan basis. but i think they get this through the rules committee, which will require a majority of votes as oppos

does matt gaetz get sidelined? and i'm talking about a theoretical future. >> depends where ten or 20 new people are they hard liners, moderates, in a more moderate and more center right house republican majority, greene's stock goes down, as does matt gaetz. if you add hard liner freedom caucus types, it probably grows a little bit or becomes a crowd of that discussion. marjorie taylor greene, much of what she says is not worth covering, not worth talking about, but listen, she does have a vote and the one vote and the ability to file a motion to vacate is as important as anybody else, even if you disagree with her. she can trigger that vote and that's a powerful thing to do. >> in a different congress, it would be certainly different or a past congress, i might say. would democrats stand to gain anything by letting marjorie taylor greene stand on the senate floor and make her case? she's an impeachment manager. she could argue part of the case against mayorkas. >> i just think there is such incredulity that this

at its core is a deeply undemocratic thing because of what marjorie taylor greene is did, what matt gaetzbly a dozen or so republicans will do, when they say we're going to stop a rule, they're taking advantage of this bizarre quirk of a very narrow republican majority to basically exercise a personal veto. so in other words, i will take down a rule. that's what happened yesterday, it wasn't one, it was 19 republicans. but the point is the house should be allowed to work its will. so whether it's on ukraine aid where you would have in excess of the 3/4 of the congress supporting it or fisa 702 which is a critical, critical intelligence collection mechanism that's keeping us safe right now, these people are saying my political needs, probably my low dollar fund-raising needs are so important that i'm going to create an explosion, which damages the national security of the country, which is undemocratic because it prevents the house from working its will, but you know what, i'm going to curry a little bit of favor with donald trump and mar-a-lago so that's a trade. >> so you're right, this

there was a -- there was an altercation between him and matt gaetz, calling him tubby he said matt gaetz just wants to be on tv. mr. van orden saying he egged on the motion to vacate vote. they say, representative van orden is supporting the primary challenger of the freedom caucus chair, bob good. freedom caucus members are resurrecting their floor action response team. politico's olivia beavers reports that house freedom caucus members are signing up to take shifts to guard the house floor nord to prevent resolutions they consider unsavory from slipping through that could curb their power, per two republican sources this. floor action response team aims to guard against a voice vote or unanimous consent vote where action could be stealthily taken against them and their members, for example, a resolution to strip massie, norman or roy from the rules committee. while we wait for further action on all of this here's a look at some of the debate from earlier. >> so a change of our programming plans while we wait for house rules to return. we'll show you some of your phone calls from today'

and on january 6 he really shouldn't be practicing law and i don't know where matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene had been looking for lawyers, but he is definitely not the only competent lawyer that they can find. there are many, many more we know of two other former trump attorneys who have taken plea deals in that fulton county case to avoid trial. sidney powell and kenneth chesebro you interview johnny's been last year do you think his financial situation? could affect his approach to the charges he's facing in georgia? >> i doubt it. and the reason why i say that is because when i spoke to him last year as all this stuff was still underway, this proceeding was still underway. he was quite strident and i think even to this day, he really has not acknowledged any kind of error or mistake or note of contrition throughout this whole proceeding. he seems to want to fight this until the last possible opportunity. and if you can't pay for his lawyers, many people can pay for lawyers. they get public defenders, right? >> all right. let's hop from georgia to florida when it comes to the

mccarthy cut in order to assume the speakership that same deal ultimately lead to his ouster when matt gaetz led the charge back in the fall to really mike johnson came in the. conservative or very happy with him coming into the position because he's ideologically aligned with them. but as he came in recognizing the narrowness of his majority and the fact that he had to govern with democrats and leading the senate with democrats in the white house, cutting a deal on keeping the government open, cutting a deal on issues such as a key surveillance law and now calling this deal and foreign aid package that includes billions, $61 billion in aid to ukraine, all of which key aligned himself would democrats, the democratic leaders, in part because of his own classified briefings and how he's learned about these subjects changing and evolving and his views. but as a angering those folks on the far right who are coming after marjorie taylor greene has refused today was the day she tried to call for that vote, she could do that. and then within two one-week recess, so it's uld possible this could get

>> yeah in fact, they just engaged in what congress and matt gaetz described as a tense conversation on the house floor with the speaker of the house over there objections. i'll he's moving forward on this foreign aid package and his decision to move forward on a separate border security plan that it will not be tied ultimately to this bill that it caused there's back-and-forth, there's also a tense exchange between him and another congressman, derrick van orden, a congressman from wisconsin, who is daring them to move forward. the call to house speaker mike johnson, and also very interestingly, they tried to press johnson about whether he would agree to a rules change, making it harder to oust the sitting speaker. and they contended both at&t gates and lauren barbara just moments ago that johnson would not guarantee that he would move forward and support making it harder to oust him from the job. let's from kevin mccarthy. unfortunately, mike johnson is going on between the one pull out of here and nra. >> i'm pulling out of this right now. this this is not the right looks like that

it's my absolute honor to be in congress, but i served with some real scum bags, look up matt gaetz he paid miners to have sex with them. a drug parties. >> bob good endorsed my opponent, a known neo-nazi these people used to walk around with white hoods at night. >> now they're walking around with white hoods in the daytime. look what didn't surprise me that some of these folks voted against aid to israel, but i was encouraged to see by nearly ten to one mark that republicans supported our allies on the battlefield wow, okay. i should say that the federal government did look into matt gaetz and those allegations and they decided not to prosecute well unlike joe biden's poor uncle posey, i think mike johnson's going to avoid cannibals& his own party here he stood up to him this weekend and and the adults reid took control of the us congress. >> and i think people got sick and tired. he's one of them of marjorie taylor greene being in charge of their life and they just finally said no. and so i think and i hope that the democrats will continue to stand with mike johnson here for a funct

here is congressman matt gaetz talking about this? >> it seems as though the coalition to proceed onto this foreign aid bill doesn't include house conservatives. and i think that's going to rile a lot of republican voters right hassan at least in this case, has the right wing of the house gop been out fox by johnson there in a really tough spot, partly because they do not want to blow up yet another speaker. >> you now have a presumptive republican presidential nominee who does not want the house republicans to continue to embarrass him as he's looking to win another presidential term. so i think that they really are in a really difficult position because they didn't have a clear strategy. when you're looking at these rebels, what exactly is it that they want? what is their discrete realistic ask that they can actually get in a real negotiate? fusion. it's just not clear they want and that's why they can't move the ball forward. they want to blow it up. i mean, i'm the only person who listens to the war room by steve bannon, but she s

republican party now, he did have that post on truth, social yesterday, and certainly people like matt gaetz who were already planning to vote against the rule, said that that was a major boost for them, but we should note that this has been a division within the republican party for months, for years. this division in between those who want to protect the us intelligence capabilities and those who are more concerned about the surveillance of americans. but obviously donald trump and mike johnson going to have a lot to talk about tomorrow. >> all right. lauren fox. thank you very much. and let's bring an andrew mccabe. he's cnn senior law enforcement analyst was deputy director of the fbi andrew. thank you so much for being with us. let's cut through some of the noise on this. what are the consequences of this law being killed as trump would like to see it? >> yeah. so let's understand exactly what we're talking about here, jim, because what you're hearing on the hill and from donald trump is really confusing the issue. >> so fisa is a big law. it has a lot of different sections. part of it

matt gaetz, he pd mine to have sex wh them. a drug parties. >> bob good endoe my opponent, a no neoazi. >> these people used to walk around with white hoods at night. now they' walking around with white hoods in the daytime two months fake i mean, i sort of stopped and he was like, do i need to rewind this purchase again? >> yeah, that's the face that you saw like kate was on the panel as well? >> we all were going oh, my my goodness. did not expect that. but it is so emblematic of the frustration. it just it's just absolutely erupting among republicans who actually did get elected and come to washington to try to get things done. even the most basic from their perspective. which is from a couple of months ago, was recently was funding the government. but in this case, it's defending and aiding a democracy and parallel and it, when it comes to ukraine, also, israel and others, but it to me and the next thing that i asked him was is this part of the revolt, this, i didn't use his words, but i'm using a revolt of the norm is just

, these same matt gaetz who spearheaded the effort to oust former speaker kevin mccarthy. hey, it's told cnn quote, i gave the speaker some unsolicited advice that we've got to get into a fighting posture. i was very pleased with how the speaker received that advice even if dates is in his corner, johnson will still have to navigate some nasty intraparty politics over ukraine aid johnson telling fox news, he does expect to bring the aid package forward. when congress returns from recess during me now to discuss all this punchbowl news, congressional report, or make a cell nar and axios congressional reporter stephen newcomb, i think you guys both very much for being here. good morning to you. >> stephen. let me start with you on marjorie taylor greene. and what's going on here. it does seem as though she has she could have been more aggressive and how she filed this motion. right. she's sort of raised it, put it out there, and then they went home for recess. there's some questions about how we go forward, but i do think it was interesting. johnson was clear with less than

. >> former speaker gingrich says the demons that matt gaetz unleashed going after kevin mccarthy areut there. you can't govern by shooting yourself in the head every day. how does speaker johnson get anything done? >> he's gotten a lot done. every appropriation bill passed. fisa through, this aid -- >> he has to re lie on democratic votes which he's being faulted for by members of his party. >> every appropriations bill is bipartisan at the end of the day. they just work that way. most of these -- something like fisa ought to be bipartisan. i actually think he's, you know, empowered the center and marginalized the extremes on each side. is there some risk to that? sure. he's got an lot done. people admire him, genuinely like him, all respect him. every single republican voted for him. i don't think that any other person could have done that at the time, other than mike johnson. so the reservoir of goodwill is enormous. i think he's much stronger than the people seem to think. and i think he's demonstrated that by what he's passed. >> first of all, do you think republicans after novem

this is sort of a trump, matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene-free zone. >> for sure. they do have some things to go after, including a perjury conviction. but you're right. this happens in so many cases and the prosecution is used to saying, look, we have corroborated and did he seem credible. and back to trump, it's not simply dangerous, it's a second by second train wreck and perjury fest. he cannot testify. i'm sticking to it. and i know you don't like it when i get legal, but it's really important to emphasize one point. if he doesn't testify, almost everything he's going to want to say can't come in. the rules are that the prosecution can take anything he said and present them, but he can't do it on the other side. if he testifies, he maybe can, but then he's subject to cross-examination on every one of the how many lies did "the washington post" find? 30, just pick your best. there's so much there. we're going to find out even if we heard it before. i want to give you a snippet. cohen says that around this conversation trump asked, well, since he won, we don't h

oust kevin mccarthy we call them tbi actually kick rocks tobi. >> yeah. >> so there isn't being matt gaetz is appalling chip roy savoy bob good's a bully. >> and the only way to stop a police to push back hard that the majority of the majority, the vast majority of majority is sick and tired of these high school andrea the only thing i gleaned from it is that mr. van orton is not a particularly intelligent individual i mean, you where i, had to step away. >> this is laughing, this is today's business. today's republican conference yeah. i mean, and it's also you have to push push back harder. it's just the tactics. and now the belief on the people who align themselves with mike johnson is just ignore these guys, run over them, stiff arm them, push them to the side. >> yeah. but i mean, the point i've majority of republican conference voted against this bill. they voted against the ukraine bill. you had jim jordan you had jodi arrington, budget committee chairman. you had at least stefanik, who is the number four house republican, and a possible vp candidate i mean, there are going to be co

while matt gaetz is at regular prom.tonight but it was just my own reflection in a spoon . like many of you here tonight, i pretend to do news on tv. , my weekend update coanchor emma michael che, was going to join me here tonight. in solidarity with president biden, i decided to lose all my black support . michael che told me to say that and i am just realizing i was set up . i have done weekend update for a while now. most people don't know that i started out doing the actual news. my first job out of college was as a reporter for the staten island advance newspaper. they do not have a table here tonight. but, they asked me to pass along this message to the other print journalists in the room. you think you're better than me? by the way, i want to point out, when i worked at least at an island advance, we had a daily circulation of 100,000. the washington post would kill for that. as a former aspiring journalist, i want to genuinely congratulate all of the award winners here tonight. congratulations. the correspondence

what got us here when you look about kevin mccarthy, the last straw and matt gaetz make say because ofhe spending bill and not a chance to go through and develop spending bills for each section. the truth is, they asked if kevin mccarthy with the help of steve scalise and his team knowing mike johnson would be a lame-duck because everything with a one-vote majority, everything republicans have to handle like will be on johnson's neck. i think he's embraced it, just going on with it and plans the term that don't involve being in congress much longer and what it's going to do is put steve police the seek to be minority leader it's easier to raise money and be minority leader because you don't need to be held accountable. the reason why 112 republicans voted against it for the reason why they voted for it, when you get down to it, they are using is deitch other to create a majority where when you have republicans or districts, a chance to vote for or against the party to keep their district happy. the vote today was inconsequential for republicans because democrats showed up and voted and

matt gaetz did not have a candidate to win consensus.s is a democracy, this is how it works if she does not like the bilges bills she votes again them, she has one district in georgia that is plus 22 that is her big selling point. not a big group of people, deal with it, shut up and by the way, when donald trump came out and said he supported michael johnson that should be enough forever these people who are backbenchers, they should say we'll make it work that is the game. >> everyone is a rino . >> over or under on trump. >> reagan did it twice, trump -- you can imagine a private citizen running for president and winning, he has done it before. larry: you are taking over. >> safe the tape. >> joe concha,. i'm kudlow, up next, kevin mccarthy, very optimistic about republicans winning the house, senate and white house, i'm business. it's not a nine-to-five proposition. it's all day and into the night. it's all the things that keep this world turning. it's the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. trust. hang out. and check in.

i respect the chair, i respect matt gaetz consent and expect them to return that favor to me in wisconsin. neil: you don't think this will go far. all it takes is going the extra step to say i want to do this. neither are at that stage. you think they will be? >> i am not sure which member from the freedom caucus -- i don't know which one we are getting monday versus tuesday. i don't know how to negotiate with these folks because they change their position so often. what i have chosen to do is focusing very hard on these policies in detail and if they make sense for my constituents, the american people in the world at large in that order, i will vote for it and if not i won't. if folks around here knocked off this high school drama, realize that we are a deliberative body responsible for governing, if more people did that there will be opposite people. neil: once the seal always a seal. your reaction to what israel pulled off, and counterstrike on the part of the uranian's. and what do you think happens. >> when hamas attacked israel, israel is in the process. they did not attack iran eve

. >> matt gaetz is not whether on this and so that gates likes to be the one controlling the thing wells and like it would work a terrorist >> iris interesting stuff or control among these people who used to be a united front. and now some of them want to save johnson and some of them don't and we'll just have to see how it plays out. >> thank you all. appreciate it from us politics to what's going on in israel my next guest says, quote benjamin yahoo, israel's worst prime minister ever. he's israeli and he says that we'll get into that plus the breaking news and sports today, bronny james, following the lead of his dad, taking his talent stand, be a draft bob cost us. we'll be here to discuss that. and of course, the explosion in women's basketball next this situation with wolf blitzer didn't knighted six once cnn >> the, only godaddy aroh helped you get your business online in minutes with a power bi with the perfect naibe a great logo, and a beautiful website. just start with the domain, a few clicks and you're in business make now the future at godaddy.com slash arrow >> this is the

mark meadows did it and then her friend matt gaetz did it.r raising money but then decided to separate but for the sameth purpose, raising more money. marjorie taylor greene watched how much green math skates withc kevin mccarthy with ancillary but trying to kill an investigation into alleged misconduct. now marjorie taylor greenenow s followin g suit of holding over mike johnson's head. you majoy be wondering, what wod happen if the same energy was put into, i don't know, may be winning the white house were winning two democrat senate seats in georgia here there is a lot of money to be made in fame when family members fight. there is just not much in it for you. the joining us his former actingma speaker congressman patrick mchenry, welcome, congressmanar cureed some folks aren't built t for the majority. being in the minority is easier, show up, vote no and post videos on social media. leading is hard. we saw one who threats to defraud another. what iockes going on? >> but is just that. we are divided government. democrats run washington, t

one of the people that the kremlin spin doctors singled out in these documents is representative matt gaetz, that he's an excellent messenger for them. it was an extraordinary report. but i think this goes back -- i mean how long do we have? first of all, the american conservative evangelical movement, especially the world congress of families has been working for a long time with right-wing nationalists, anti-feminists in russia to do things like infringe on gay rights, to limit abortion access, which has been legal in russia more or less for 100 years now, over 100 years. and0 trump was told he was briefed on the eve of his inauguration that putin tried to help him win the election. zelenskyy, aid to ukraine became the stuff of first impeachment against trump. there are all kinds of reasons he doesnd not like ukraine and likes russia. the other piece is the pure ideological affinity. the american right wing looks at russia, looks at vladimir putin, and they see a white christian nationalist who is banning gay people and the gay people in russia, who is curbing women's access to abortion,

you have guys like matt gaetz saying ukraine was a dealbreaker. a lot of concern. don't know how many republicans will try to take it out on him. aishah: griff: we are going to stick it a little bit, we want to see exactly what happens. if you could, just walk us a touch more because it is a bit confusing about the effort for democrats coming to the rescue of speaker johnson if the motion is made by marjorie taylor greene, if democrats force them to be coming up for a vote and democrats would help. >> reporter: democrats, anybody in the house of representatives could bring up this resolution now that she has filed. there was chatter when she talked about or introduced this a couple weeks ago and didn't make it live, that mike johnson what his allies should make it live and say come at us. this is something joe cannon, the white house speaker, there's a reason it named the cannon house office building, across the street from the capital, had a similar situation and he forced a vote on his own and prevailed with votes from the other side. that we ca