i spoke to matt goodman.den, bearing in mind they haven't met since the g20 in bali in 2022. a lot has happened since then. what do you envisage could come out of that meeting? well, this is a very important opportunity for the leaders of the two largest countries in the world to meet and go through a number of difficult issues between them. i don't think this is going to fundamentally change the reality, that we are in competition with each other, that we have some major differences on issues from security, the south china sea, taiwan, economic issues and human rights. i think the leaders will address all of those things, and this is going to be more about the signalling to the world and to their own people that they are managing the relationship responsibly, rather than some effort to try to make huge breakthroughs on any substantive issues. you mentioned the talks potentially looking at notjust security, military co—operation and competition, but of course this meeting is also coming at a time of the war i